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Not many crawlers , but here is what was there .Was great to catch up with Lance again ,and to met Andrew in person.
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Sat, Sep 17, 2016 7:44 PM
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thanks there are some nice shot there.
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Sat, Sep 17, 2016 8:04 PM
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thanks there are some nice shot there.
Gidday Ian,
If that Fowler Challenger is what I think it is it is very rare, having a two cylinder version of the 'Field Marshall' two stroke diesel engine. As with many rare models, the reason it is rare is that they were not a success with the engines aparantly using a lot of oil and wearing rapidly.
Great pictures and a good selection of machines including the great little Ransomes MG6 machine.
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Sun, Sep 18, 2016 2:10 AM
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Gidday Ian,
If that Fowler Challenger is what I think it is it is very rare, having a two cylinder version of the 'Field Marshall' two stroke diesel engine. As with many rare models, the reason it is rare is that they were not a success with the engines aparantly using a lot of oil and wearing rapidly.
Great pictures and a good selection of machines including the great little Ransomes MG6 machine.
[quote="gauntjoh"]Gidday Ian,
If that Fowler Challenger is what I think it is it is very rare, having a two cylinder version of the 'Field Marshall' two stroke diesel engine. As with many rare models, the reason it is rare is that they were not a success with the engines aparantly using a lot of oil and wearing rapidly.
Great pictures and a good selection of machines including the great little Ransomes MG6 machine.[/quote]

That is a Challenger with the 2 cylinder 2 stroke there are couple floating around in Australia but thats fairly rare unit world wide now, not many made to start with and not many survived

I like the first little crawler top photos Ian

Paul
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Sun, Sep 18, 2016 3:28 AM
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Reply to mrsmackpaul:
[quote="gauntjoh"]Gidday Ian,
If that Fowler Challenger is what I think it is it is very rare, having a two cylinder version of the 'Field Marshall' two stroke diesel engine. As with many rare models, the reason it is rare is that they were not a success with the engines aparantly using a lot of oil and wearing rapidly.
Great pictures and a good selection of machines including the great little Ransomes MG6 machine.[/quote]

That is a Challenger with the 2 cylinder 2 stroke there are couple floating around in Australia but thats fairly rare unit world wide now, not many made to start with and not many survived

I like the first little crawler top photos Ian

Paul
I wish I knew about it I could have brought my d4 well maybe next time
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Sun, Sep 18, 2016 3:35 AM
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Reply to gauntjoh:
Gidday Ian,
If that Fowler Challenger is what I think it is it is very rare, having a two cylinder version of the 'Field Marshall' two stroke diesel engine. As with many rare models, the reason it is rare is that they were not a success with the engines aparantly using a lot of oil and wearing rapidly.
Great pictures and a good selection of machines including the great little Ransomes MG6 machine.
[quote="gauntjoh"]Gidday Ian,
If that Fowler Challenger is what I think it is it is very rare, having a two cylinder version of the 'Field Marshall' two stroke diesel engine. As with many rare models, the reason it is rare is that they were not a success with the engines aparantly using a lot of oil and wearing rapidly.
Great pictures and a good selection of machines including the great little Ransomes MG6 machine.[/quote]

Hi John , Yes it is a Challenger One .Had a quick chat to the owner .He lives not far from our Australian resident expert on Marshall and fowler tractors . He said Don said there was about 250 Challenger ones that came to Australia .
The little Ransome not only looked good , but was mechanicly A1 ,, Started first pull on the crank handle
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Sun, Sep 18, 2016 4:11 AM
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I wish I knew about it I could have brought my d4 well maybe next time


Last years show at Kimgaroy was fantastic. I, unfortunately was unable to attend , but through Great friends sending me photos straight from the rally was able to post some photos on a thread here .
http://www.acmoc.org/bb/showthread.php?23702-Kingaroy-Queensland-Show
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Sun, Sep 18, 2016 5:03 AM
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Last years show at Kimgaroy was fantastic. I, unfortunately was unable to attend , but through Great friends sending me photos straight from the rally was able to post some photos on a thread here .
http://www.acmoc.org/bb/showthread.php?23702-Kingaroy-Queensland-Show
On the fifth photo, what is the steering wheel for? I have never seen that before. Robyn
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Sun, Sep 18, 2016 10:49 AM
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On the fifth photo, what is the steering wheel for? I have never seen that before. Robyn
The steering wheel is used to steer the tractor!
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Sun, Sep 18, 2016 11:40 AM
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The steering wheel is used to steer the tractor!
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Sun, Sep 18, 2016 1:16 PM
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The steering wheel is used to steer the tractor!
Hi, Catboy.
That is an Italian-built Fiat crawler, at a guess of late 1940s-early 1950s vintage. Several European manufacturers from that era used steering wheels instead of levers to control the steering clutches. Hanomag was one and I think Kaelble was another, both from Germany and ARA from France. U.S. manufacturer, Monarch, later Allis Chalmers, also used a steering wheel on some its early models.

If I remember 'kee-wreckedly', there were also a couple of crawler conversions of wheel tractors that retained the steering wheel. The early Trackson conversions of both Fordson and Case retained the steering wheel to operate the steering clutches or brakes as did the Johnson Track-Pull conversion and the Hadfield-Penfield 1/2-track conversion.

Hope this helps.

Just my 0.02.

You have a wonderful day. Best wishes. Deas Plant.

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Sun, Sep 18, 2016 1:36 PM
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