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Oil Slick
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About 8 years ago we bought a quality tarp water collection set up. Worked ok but kept the water and melting ice contained so your always tromping in the water.

The garage floor is very smooth except around the door area.

Seems like it needs a thin layer of concrete with a slight slope were the water and chucks of ice will run to the center then out.

Please advise on how to solve her problem?


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Mon, Oct 16, 2017 6:55 AM
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Long term, pour a cap on it if you have the elevation to do it (several inches from garage floor up to house) or break it up and repour it.

If you want to try a skim coat you will need to scabble or at least etch the slick surface for good adhesion and then use the material intended for thin coating as directed. Usually in harsh environments the thin layer ends up delaminating over time. A garage might be better than the exterior pool deck and dairy barns I have experience with.

Anything other than a cement mix will cost a bundle to build thickness to slope the floor. ........might be as expensive as repouring the slab. Epoxy coatings can be very slick unless properly sanded at the right stage of cure so the grit doesn't just sink into the surface.

Are you sure there is no slope on the floor now? Seems like there should be some slope toward the door at least.
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Mon, Oct 16, 2017 11:16 AM
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Long term, pour a cap on it if you have the elevation to do it (several inches from garage floor up to house) or break it up and repour it.

If you want to try a skim coat you will need to scabble or at least etch the slick surface for good adhesion and then use the material intended for thin coating as directed. Usually in harsh environments the thin layer ends up delaminating over time. A garage might be better than the exterior pool deck and dairy barns I have experience with.

Anything other than a cement mix will cost a bundle to build thickness to slope the floor. ........might be as expensive as repouring the slab. Epoxy coatings can be very slick unless properly sanded at the right stage of cure so the grit doesn't just sink into the surface.

Are you sure there is no slope on the floor now? Seems like there should be some slope toward the door at least.
Poly urea. Oilslick, you have a friend that owns a spray coating business....

That's one hellofa bumper !
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Mon, Oct 16, 2017 12:07 PM
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Poly urea. Oilslick, you have a friend that owns a spray coating business....

That's one hellofa bumper !
Mike--another option is to saw cut grooves in the surface to get water draining like we do on concrete bridge decks and concrete pavement
maybe saw cut them perpendicular to the center line and then one longitudinal to drain away
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Mon, Oct 16, 2017 7:42 PM
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Mike--another option is to saw cut grooves in the surface to get water draining like we do on concrete bridge decks and concrete pavement
maybe saw cut them perpendicular to the center line and then one longitudinal to drain away
Gravity rules!!!! Either the floor elevation needs to be raised and sloped or the outside elevation needs to be lowered. A good garage floor slab will have an additional taper right where the door gasket seals.
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Mon, Oct 16, 2017 10:37 PM
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Gravity rules!!!! Either the floor elevation needs to be raised and sloped or the outside elevation needs to be lowered. A good garage floor slab will have an additional taper right where the door gasket seals.
CC. No im not sure about the slope of the garage. There is plenty of clearance to pull her pick up in.

I can see what your saying about delaminating as it freezes. If there were any cracks or water got under my new thin slab the ice would break it up.

TOG, big bumpers are good. Lots of deer up here. Makes me nervous riding my bike when deer are standing on the road side looking at you.

DP, that sounds like a good idea trying to cut grooves. Would it break up the floor if it freezes? Or would the ice just push up and out if the grooves aren't to deep?
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Mon, Oct 16, 2017 11:05 PM
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CC. No im not sure about the slope of the garage. There is plenty of clearance to pull her pick up in.

I can see what your saying about delaminating as it freezes. If there were any cracks or water got under my new thin slab the ice would break it up.

TOG, big bumpers are good. Lots of deer up here. Makes me nervous riding my bike when deer are standing on the road side looking at you.

DP, that sounds like a good idea trying to cut grooves. Would it break up the floor if it freezes? Or would the ice just push up and out if the grooves aren't to deep?
you should check the floor to see if it slopes in any direction and use that as a guide on how you want to run the water. the minimum depth of overlays on bridge decks was 2 inches but i would think you could go a little less. ever think of chopping a small hole and installing a sump pump? I did that on my sisters cellar floor that flooded some times on high tide
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Tue, Oct 17, 2017 5:10 AM
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you should check the floor to see if it slopes in any direction and use that as a guide on how you want to run the water. the minimum depth of overlays on bridge decks was 2 inches but i would think you could go a little less. ever think of chopping a small hole and installing a sump pump? I did that on my sisters cellar floor that flooded some times on high tide
I'd say a single shank ripper on a D11 should just about fix it. lol
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Tue, Oct 17, 2017 5:29 AM
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I'd say a single shank ripper on a D11 should just about fix it. lol
Find the low spot, drill a 6" hole in the concrete, then drill down 4' and put a piece of PVC pipe in the hole and a grate over the top of the pipe.

Or sand jacking to raise the floor of the garage, and slope it so the water runs out.
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Tue, Oct 17, 2017 9:12 AM
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Find the low spot, drill a 6" hole in the concrete, then drill down 4' and put a piece of PVC pipe in the hole and a grate over the top of the pipe.

Or sand jacking to raise the floor of the garage, and slope it so the water runs out.
Mom says she has to always sweep the water out.

How would you drill a 6" hole in the concrete? We're in the Rockies so drilling down 4' could be a challenge for me.

Grooving the concrete probably won't work because the main drainage grove will freeze up and not allow drainage.

A fresh layer of concrete seems like the perfect fix. Got anymore details on doing concrete correctly?
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Tue, Oct 17, 2017 9:43 AM
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CC. No im not sure about the slope of the garage. There is plenty of clearance to pull her pick up in.

I can see what your saying about delaminating as it freezes. If there were any cracks or water got under my new thin slab the ice would break it up.

TOG, big bumpers are good. Lots of deer up here. Makes me nervous riding my bike when deer are standing on the road side looking at you.

DP, that sounds like a good idea trying to cut grooves. Would it break up the floor if it freezes? Or would the ice just push up and out if the grooves aren't to deep?


Sawing a grove slabs that have a puddle is quite common in the commercial world. In my sisters garage I cut a single approx. 3/16" groove from the low spot puddle out thru the door. It had no spalding over the 5 years she owned it after cutting the groove and it never had a puddle during that time. If unheated the water should not run in when cold and freeze. If warm enough to collect , it is warm enough for the water to run out. A day rent Partner saw with a concrete blade is a easy way to cut them. Quick and easy. Even if it doesn't work for you, no harm, no fowl, pour the overlay over it. If you pour a overlay go 2'' thick with a pea rock mix. Throw some #3 bar in it at 12" centers. The extra thickness will also help you stay dry as well as not flake easily.
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