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About how much liquid will it take to fill my left hand steering clutch housing 1/3 full on my D2 5J? I want to fill it so only the bottom part of the clutch pack is in the liquid as it turns. I'm going to use Kroil or Sili Kroil to try to loosen it up. I'll put it in and drive it around and let it sit to soak before trying to break it loose. Any advice?
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Fri, Aug 16, 2013 11:18 AM
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Just helped to get one loose. Make sure and adj the lever so that there is no freeplay and prop the lever in the open position and adj the brake so that it is working good and then drive the tractor while appling the brake to get the drum hot after it is good and hot then try to bump the brake and with good luck it will pop loose. It took several trys but we had good luck with this. Filling with kriol is good also. Ron
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Fri, Aug 16, 2013 5:44 PM
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Just helped to get one loose. Make sure and adj the lever so that there is no freeplay and prop the lever in the open position and adj the brake so that it is working good and then drive the tractor while appling the brake to get the drum hot after it is good and hot then try to bump the brake and with good luck it will pop loose. It took several trys but we had good luck with this. Filling with kriol is good also. Ron


Thanks for the information. When I get a chance I'll give it a try and let you know the outcome. I'm still curious as to how much liquid it would take to fill the housing approximately 1/3 full.
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Sun, Aug 18, 2013 11:08 AM
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Reply to old5j:


Thanks for the information. When I get a chance I'll give it a try and let you know the outcome. I'm still curious as to how much liquid it would take to fill the housing approximately 1/3 full.
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My guess would be 1 1/2 to 2 gallons, I did this with old diesel but did not measure the volume.

I ended hooking up the D2 to the front of my father in laws Deuitz with a 14 foot disk behind it, I pulled him around a 40 acre field, 1 gear, full throttle, both stearing clutches tied back with diesel in the clutch compartments splashing around. He was able to stear me like a tail on a weathervane and offer a good load, he was impressed what the D2 could pull. The clutches never did let go. A full tear down was the solution.
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Sun, Aug 18, 2013 5:20 PM
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My guess would be 1 1/2 to 2 gallons, I did this with old diesel but did not measure the volume.

I ended hooking up the D2 to the front of my father in laws Deuitz with a 14 foot disk behind it, I pulled him around a 40 acre field, 1 gear, full throttle, both stearing clutches tied back with diesel in the clutch compartments splashing around. He was able to stear me like a tail on a weathervane and offer a good load, he was impressed what the D2 could pull. The clutches never did let go. A full tear down was the solution.
Yes, its around 1&1/2 gallons, seems like to fills it till it runs over to the other side. I tried the same as Stveve but never got mine free either. Tear down was the solution. If it isn't bad looking inside there you may luck out.
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Mon, Aug 19, 2013 8:21 AM
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Yes, its around 1&1/2 gallons, seems like to fills it till it runs over to the other side. I tried the same as Stveve but never got mine free either. Tear down was the solution. If it isn't bad looking inside there you may luck out.
Hi i have been watching this discussion with interest because i had same problem, i filled mine with diesel and left it for about 2 weeks drove with diesel still in and rode brakes took about 15 min and had both free so dont loose hope.
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Sun, Sep 8, 2013 7:42 PM
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Hi i have been watching this discussion with interest because i had same problem, i filled mine with diesel and left it for about 2 weeks drove with diesel still in and rode brakes took about 15 min and had both free so dont loose hope.
GREAT!
Now take both sets of drain plugs out and drill a 1/4" hole in them!
Put a 1/8" cotter pin through the hole to rattle around.
Then re-install to allow moisture to drain out and keep rodents out.
Yes, mice can crawl in there!
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Mon, Sep 9, 2013 6:36 PM
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GREAT!
Now take both sets of drain plugs out and drill a 1/4" hole in them!
Put a 1/8" cotter pin through the hole to rattle around.
Then re-install to allow moisture to drain out and keep rodents out.
Yes, mice can crawl in there!
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[quote="drujinin"]GREAT!
Now take both sets of drain plugs out and drill a 1/4" hole in them!
Put a 1/8" cotter pin through the hole to rattle around.
Then re-install to allow moisture to drain out and keep rodents out.
Yes, mice can crawl in there!
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Mice certainly can crawl in there. The PO of the D2 I'm fighting with had drained the transmission and left the plug out. Quite a mouse nest in there, not to mention nut shells and other debris. Same mess in the clutch housing. Haven't figured out how they got in that part.

Jim
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Mon, Sep 9, 2013 9:16 PM
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Reply to Jim Davis:
[quote="drujinin"]GREAT!
Now take both sets of drain plugs out and drill a 1/4" hole in them!
Put a 1/8" cotter pin through the hole to rattle around.
Then re-install to allow moisture to drain out and keep rodents out.
Yes, mice can crawl in there!
👍[/quote]

Mice certainly can crawl in there. The PO of the D2 I'm fighting with had drained the transmission and left the plug out. Quite a mouse nest in there, not to mention nut shells and other debris. Same mess in the clutch housing. Haven't figured out how they got in that part.

Jim
My 3J main clutch housing had mouse bedding up above the level of the shaft - the only opening was the drain plug below the flywheel - they must have done some scrambling to get around the flywheel and then up the side of the housing to gain access to the main chamber. There was also a decent amount of bedding in the exhaust and inlet manifolds...
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Tue, Sep 10, 2013 8:41 AM
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Hi i have been watching this discussion with interest because i had same problem, i filled mine with diesel and left it for about 2 weeks drove with diesel still in and rode brakes took about 15 min and had both free so dont loose hope.


The reason I haven't kept you updated about my stuck friction is I am living near Roseburg, Oregon and the tractor is near Eureka, California. I have not been able to come up with a sufficient excuse to go there! I've been trying to find a way to get the tractor up to Oregon. Part of the problem is it has a winch and blade so is quite heavy. I do hope to get down there soon and make an attempt to free the friction ASAP and hope to get it moved to Oregon in the near future. Will keep you posted.
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Fri, Sep 13, 2013 9:55 AM
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I finally got back to California where the tractor is located. I filled the housing with approximately 1/2 gallon penetrating oil and ran the tractor back and forth and let it sit for about 10 minutes. Then I tried to free the clutch by running it into a large redwood tree several times - no luck. I let it sit for another 10 minutes and tried again - this time success!! I drained the housings, both sides, and got a lot of rusty oil out of both. The steering clutch is working like new!
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