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Fan adjustment on a D6C D333C, need help

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Dutchboy
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So it appears that when the previous owner had the dozer a stick or something go pushed into the fan cage, it was dented in pretty good and it appears that the fan blades from hitting it were all straight but show signs that they hit the cage. I know that the fan adjusts, how do I go about doing that and is there some sort of way to set the blades to a certain angle. thank you in advance. God bless
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Mon, Oct 21, 2019 5:14 AM
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Fans are sometimes reversible, but not really adjustable. In other words, there are two fixed positions, one for fan to suck and one for it to blow.
D2-5J's, D6-9U's, D318 and D333 power units, 12E-99E grader, 922B & 944A wheel loaders, D330C generator set, DW20 water tanker and a bunch of Jersey cows to take care of in my spare time๐Ÿ˜„
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Mon, Oct 21, 2019 8:16 AM
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Fans are sometimes reversible, but not really adjustable. In other words, there are two fixed positions, one for fan to suck and one for it to blow.
the reversible fans i was around you had to push the blade down toward the hub and turn aprox 1/4 turn and then the spring would pop it back out. if it hasn't been adjusted in a long time it may require a lot of loose juice.
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Mon, Oct 21, 2019 8:36 AM
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the reversible fans i was around you had to push the blade down toward the hub and turn aprox 1/4 turn and then the spring would pop it back out. if it hasn't been adjusted in a long time it may require a lot of loose juice.
Hi Team,
these fans were offered somewhere around the mid 1960's and were fitted to most 769 A Trucks as well as attachment for other machines.
Over time the key plates on the ends of the blades and their slots in the fan hubs wore and so this had the effect of flattening out/reducing the pitch of the blades.
When this happens the machines tend to overheat due to diminished air flow.

As said above you push the blades towards the hub centre and turn them to reverse the pitch and create a blower fan or a sucker fan depending on what it was previously set to.

Less wear in the reversed position often restored some of the air flow in the reversed position and so proved the wear problem existed.
On the 769's I think the idea was to periodically reverse the blades to Blow crud out of the radiator fins.
Best fix I feel is to purchase and fit a replacement fan spider of the air direction you require be it blower or suction.

Not sure from memory if they can be dismantled and reclaimed in the keeper and slot areas by welding--might be dodgy for rotating components as such--safer to go standard replacement spider.

I recall having to oxy cut holes, to Cat Drawings, in the side of the crawler tractor radiator cones to get the turning tool in to reverse the blades on New Equipment machines or used machines so fitted/retro-fitted with these.


Some previous dialogue on these jiggers

http://www.acmoc.org/bb/showthread.php?26995-D7e-48a-5960-reversible-fan&highlight=revesable+fan

Cheers,
Eddie B.
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Mon, Oct 21, 2019 12:26 PM
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Hi Team,
these fans were offered somewhere around the mid 1960's and were fitted to most 769 A Trucks as well as attachment for other machines.
Over time the key plates on the ends of the blades and their slots in the fan hubs wore and so this had the effect of flattening out/reducing the pitch of the blades.
When this happens the machines tend to overheat due to diminished air flow.

As said above you push the blades towards the hub centre and turn them to reverse the pitch and create a blower fan or a sucker fan depending on what it was previously set to.

Less wear in the reversed position often restored some of the air flow in the reversed position and so proved the wear problem existed.
On the 769's I think the idea was to periodically reverse the blades to Blow crud out of the radiator fins.
Best fix I feel is to purchase and fit a replacement fan spider of the air direction you require be it blower or suction.

Not sure from memory if they can be dismantled and reclaimed in the keeper and slot areas by welding--might be dodgy for rotating components as such--safer to go standard replacement spider.

I recall having to oxy cut holes, to Cat Drawings, in the side of the crawler tractor radiator cones to get the turning tool in to reverse the blades on New Equipment machines or used machines so fitted/retro-fitted with these.


Some previous dialogue on these jiggers

http://www.acmoc.org/bb/showthread.php?26995-D7e-48a-5960-reversible-fan&highlight=revesable+fan

Cheers,
Eddie B.
Hi Dutchboy, I hope you & yours are okay after last nights twister in Dallas. If you reverse the fan all of that heat and dust will come back on the operator making it impossible to operate! The reverse feature was used to blow warm air on the operator in no/low dust winter conditions. You will be better off spending the money to fix the problem instead of trying a "work around" that's not going to work anyway.
Craig
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Mon, Oct 21, 2019 9:50 PM
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Hi Dutchboy, I hope you & yours are okay after last nights twister in Dallas. If you reverse the fan all of that heat and dust will come back on the operator making it impossible to operate! The reverse feature was used to blow warm air on the operator in no/low dust winter conditions. You will be better off spending the money to fix the problem instead of trying a "work around" that's not going to work anyway.
Craig
[quote="seiscat"]Hi Dutchboy, I hope you & yours are okay after last nights twister in Dallas. If you reverse the fan all of that heat and dust will come back on the operator making it impossible to operate! The reverse feature was used to blow warm air on the operator in no/low dust winter conditions. You will be better off spending the money to fix the problem instead of trying a "work around" that's not going to work anyway.
Craig[/quote]
Thank the Lord we are safe, been lots of tornados lately.
So, what would the fix be? The blades hit the cage and are just turned flat. Should I just turn them to blow forward or are you saying to buy something?
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Fri, Oct 25, 2019 12:43 PM
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[quote="seiscat"]Hi Dutchboy, I hope you & yours are okay after last nights twister in Dallas. If you reverse the fan all of that heat and dust will come back on the operator making it impossible to operate! The reverse feature was used to blow warm air on the operator in no/low dust winter conditions. You will be better off spending the money to fix the problem instead of trying a "work around" that's not going to work anyway.
Craig[/quote]
Thank the Lord we are safe, been lots of tornados lately.
So, what would the fix be? The blades hit the cage and are just turned flat. Should I just turn them to blow forward or are you saying to buy something?
Our middle son lives in Dallas(Preston Hollow on Royal Lane). They had a large oak tree crash through their roof and a large amount of other damages, but nobody was injured.
I didn't read your original post close enough to understand that some blades were out of position. The reversible fan blades must be pushed in (towards the fan hub) to unlock the blades position. The blades out of position are probably damaged inside the hub.
I owned D6C 10K373 D333C that had a reversible fan. This post reminded me of something important: my 24V generator quit charging and I took it to a local shop that could rebuild it "while you wait" I watched as the guy used a air impact to tighten the double pulley on the generator shaft. That generator had a catastrophic failure a few days later. The generator was destroyed, the gen. pulley broken, the fan pulley bent and the fan belts broken! I purchased those parts new and also a standard(fixed pitch) fan from Holt Caterpillar in San Antonio, all were in stock at the time(197๐Ÿ˜Ž. The new generator had a sticker on the shaft warning not to tighten the pulley nut more than 35 ft.lbs. The fixed fan was much lighter and had longer fan blades due to not having the large center hub.
The fan being damaged and out of balance will cause other problems. This would be a good time to replace the fan belts and inspect the pulleys. The money you spend now will pay off in our hot Texas summers.
Craig
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Fri, Oct 25, 2019 10:48 PM
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