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Paso Bob
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Here is a film clip of our old R D-4 pulling a 10 1/2 foot Dire mechanical disc yesterday. My brother is discing the orchard turning the green weeds over that have popped up since it was worked 4 weeks ago. The 3 inches of rain we received in May hardened the ground surface and brought on the weeds. My grandfather purchased the D-4 brand new in 1936. It has covered a huge amount of land over the years and still runs strong.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y6wbLu5v7io
D-4 7U-43159 with 4S dozer and Cat 40 scraper, D-7 3T-1179 with Cat 7S hydraulic dozer, D-7 17A 13,944, D-8 14A-1160 with Cat 8S cable dozer, Cat 12-99E-4433 Grader. All runners and users.
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Sun, Jun 16, 2019 11:32 PM
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Wow, 83 years and still running strong. I wonder how many 2019 model tractors will be running in 2102. Thanks for posting this.
Craig
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Sun, Jun 16, 2019 11:42 PM
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Looks and sounds good Bob!!!! With proper maintenance no reason those old Cats can't all become 100 year old machines.
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Sun, Jun 16, 2019 11:46 PM
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Looks and sounds good Bob!!!! With proper maintenance no reason those old Cats can't all become 100 year old machines.
Shouldn't that drawbar be unpinned/sliding??
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Mon, Jun 17, 2019 2:10 AM
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Reply to Rome K/G:
Shouldn't that drawbar be unpinned/sliding??
Rome,

I do not recall ever unpinning a drawbar pulling implements in an orchard or open fields.
Pinning the drawbar to the side and pulling a disc with the tongue offset allowed one to keep the tractor away from the trees yet allow the disc to get near the trunks. Much easier on the operator and safer too.

cts
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Mon, Jun 17, 2019 5:09 AM
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Rome,

I do not recall ever unpinning a drawbar pulling implements in an orchard or open fields.
Pinning the drawbar to the side and pulling a disc with the tongue offset allowed one to keep the tractor away from the trees yet allow the disc to get near the trunks. Much easier on the operator and safer too.

cts
[quote="ctsnowfighter"]Rome,

I do not recall ever unpinning a drawbar pulling implements in an orchard or open fields.
Pinning the drawbar to the side and pulling a disc with the tongue offset allowed one to keep the tractor away from the trees yet allow the disc to get near the trunks. Much easier on the operator and safer too.

cts[/quote]
Ten-4 on that.
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Mon, Jun 17, 2019 5:51 AM
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Reply to Rome K/G:
[quote="ctsnowfighter"]Rome,

I do not recall ever unpinning a drawbar pulling implements in an orchard or open fields.
Pinning the drawbar to the side and pulling a disc with the tongue offset allowed one to keep the tractor away from the trees yet allow the disc to get near the trunks. Much easier on the operator and safer too.

cts[/quote]
Ten-4 on that.
Hi, Paso Bob.
Lookin' and soundin' good. Thanks for sharing.

Hi, ROME K/G and ctsnowfighter.
I can see some logic in pinning a drawbar in an orchard or in confined spaces but I did a fair bit of open field cultivation with a range of different implements in my younger days and never did pin the drawbar. I could set most 1-way disc plows to run with the front wheel of a 2-wheel drive wheel tractor in the furrow, thus virtually steering itself on all except sharp corners and you can't do that with a pinned drawbar. Or at least I never could.

Just my 0.02.
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Mon, Jun 17, 2019 6:12 AM
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Hi, Paso Bob.
Lookin' and soundin' good. Thanks for sharing.

Hi, ROME K/G and ctsnowfighter.
I can see some logic in pinning a drawbar in an orchard or in confined spaces but I did a fair bit of open field cultivation with a range of different implements in my younger days and never did pin the drawbar. I could set most 1-way disc plows to run with the front wheel of a 2-wheel drive wheel tractor in the furrow, thus virtually steering itself on all except sharp corners and you can't do that with a pinned drawbar. Or at least I never could.

Just my 0.02.
Hi Team,
scan shows one view of technique--horses for courses I guess.
Cheers,
Eddie B.
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Mon, Jun 17, 2019 7:37 AM
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Hi Team,
scan shows one view of technique--horses for courses I guess.
Cheers,
Eddie B.
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If you look closely at the hitch assembly you will see a bar that sticks out towards the left track with a chain attached that runs back to the disc. That turning bar will close the disc on a right hand turn and keep from destroying the blades and standards. That may very well be the reason that the drawbar is pinned to make sure the turning bar assembly works properly. You have to be a geezer to notice those things. 😊

Casey
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Tue, Jun 18, 2019 2:53 AM
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Reply to Casey Root:
If you look closely at the hitch assembly you will see a bar that sticks out towards the left track with a chain attached that runs back to the disc. That turning bar will close the disc on a right hand turn and keep from destroying the blades and standards. That may very well be the reason that the drawbar is pinned to make sure the turning bar assembly works properly. You have to be a geezer to notice those things. 😊

Casey
The one thing I notice on most of the past threads of tractor work is that the operator hardly ever looks back. Back in the day I rode mostly on the armrest and always looked back.

Having said that two years ago I was pulling my old Goble and one front gang came loose and I did not notice it until I went in to a turn and there it was back in the field. The rear gang must have run right over it, musta been a heck of a racket! This was right along a highway also. None of my friends ever said anything about it so I am lucky they did not come by. If one of them would have seen that I would still be trying to live it down.

I had to declare the disk junk as there was no part availability for the bearing and shaft.

Also, I never drove to amount to anything the newer cats with the fancy seats that to me would have made it very hard to turn around and look back.

One of the 9Us I acquired had one of those seats I removed it, gave it away and installed an old original bench seat.

As Deas says, just my 02
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Tue, Jun 18, 2019 10:29 AM
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The one thing I notice on most of the past threads of tractor work is that the operator hardly ever looks back. Back in the day I rode mostly on the armrest and always looked back.

Having said that two years ago I was pulling my old Goble and one front gang came loose and I did not notice it until I went in to a turn and there it was back in the field. The rear gang must have run right over it, musta been a heck of a racket! This was right along a highway also. None of my friends ever said anything about it so I am lucky they did not come by. If one of them would have seen that I would still be trying to live it down.

I had to declare the disk junk as there was no part availability for the bearing and shaft.

Also, I never drove to amount to anything the newer cats with the fancy seats that to me would have made it very hard to turn around and look back.

One of the 9Us I acquired had one of those seats I removed it, gave it away and installed an old original bench seat.

As Deas says, just my 02
That's amazing your family has kept the old girl all these years! Any guesses on the hours? Do you have a good idea of when work was done on it as in engine, clutches, undercarriage etc...? Yes there is no way the new machinery can compare. Companies in that time I believe genuinely wanted to make machinery that would serve the customer the best- last the longest, be easiest to service and most economical to overhaul. Of course nowadays everything is built to tread a fine balance of selling parts, becoming uneconomical in a certain time frame and therefore requiring the customer to upgrade without pushing so far as to turn them away to another brand. Nothing but greed and corruption...certainly I'm not a skeptic am I? 🤔😕😁

Beauty machine. Thanks for sharing.
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Tue, Jun 18, 2019 11:10 AM
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