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Cat Yellow1
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I'm looking for an equipment trailer to take my D2 to shows, etc. I'm under the belief that a 10k trailer is too light and need a 12k or 14k. I'll be pulling with a 2016 F150 with the maximum tow package, and can tow up to 12k (with weight distribution hitch). I've been looking at used trailers but it seems like anything halfway decent is priced too high, or it is sold before I see it. After much research, I'm leaning towards a new PJ T6 trailer, which has the 4' stationary and 16' tilt bed. Really rather not put that much into a trailer, which will take most of my hobby budget, but I like the tilt bed for loading and seems like it is easier to find the correct tongue weight with this kind of trailer, and the PJ trailer should hold it's value. I also have a JD SCUT tractor I'd move with it. Thoughts?
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Sat, Nov 19, 2022 9:34 PM
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I have a 5 ton 16 ft tilt trailer--i have moved my D2 with it but found the stopping distance with my F250 was not ideal
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Sat, Nov 19, 2022 10:21 PM
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I have a 5 ton 16 ft tilt trailer--i have moved my D2 with it but found the stopping distance with my F250 was not ideal
My personal opinion says to not even attempt to haul that D2 with your F150. You should be using at least a 3/4 or one ton, say an F450/F550 range. Your trailer would need good electric brakes or hydraulic surge brakes as well. Ability to stop is important with so much weight on. I shopped for a bumper pull Landoll tilt/stationary with winch and was floored. $23,000.00 plus taxes, and most other brands are close behind in pricing. Everything costs a LOT now. Friends have some really nice 5th wheel gooseneck units and they were close to 40K!!! Good luck on your quest for a used trailer, as they do sell fast. JM
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Sat, Nov 19, 2022 10:31 PM
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My personal opinion says to not even attempt to haul that D2 with your F150. You should be using at least a 3/4 or one ton, say an F450/F550 range. Your trailer would need good electric brakes or hydraulic surge brakes as well. Ability to stop is important with so much weight on. I shopped for a bumper pull Landoll tilt/stationary with winch and was floored. $23,000.00 plus taxes, and most other brands are close behind in pricing. Everything costs a LOT now. Friends have some really nice 5th wheel gooseneck units and they were close to 40K!!! Good luck on your quest for a used trailer, as they do sell fast. JM
how often are you going to move the d2, maybe contact a local tow company and have them move it 1 or 2 times a year, cheaper than a trailer and all of the liability falls on them.
get a little trailer for your tractor.
i used to move my d2 with my 3/4 ton locally / less than 10 miles, but i would not do it now because the traffic has quadrupled, and they are crazier now than ever.....
JUST MY 2 CENTS
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Sat, Nov 19, 2022 11:02 PM
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how often are you going to move the d2, maybe contact a local tow company and have them move it 1 or 2 times a year, cheaper than a trailer and all of the liability falls on them.
get a little trailer for your tractor.
i used to move my d2 with my 3/4 ton locally / less than 10 miles, but i would not do it now because the traffic has quadrupled, and they are crazier now than ever.....
JUST MY 2 CENTS
I run a 14k trailer with a F-350, D2 is fine, a naked, early D-4 is the top limit. Good trailer brakes are a must.
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Sat, Nov 19, 2022 11:56 PM
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I run a 14k trailer with a F-350, D2 is fine, a naked, early D-4 is the top limit. Good trailer brakes are a must.
In your truck manual there is a Gross Combination Weight Rating for your truck. That dictates what your max truck and trailer weight would be. Next is your drivers license and most are a standard license with a under 26K rating. Your F150 is not designed for that kind of weight....will it pull it...sure....will it stop it...doubtful. Then there are the tire ratings....the load binder ratings, chain ratings hitch ratings, etc. Lots to consider ......
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Sun, Nov 20, 2022 2:47 AM
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Reply to Cysco:
In your truck manual there is a Gross Combination Weight Rating for your truck. That dictates what your max truck and trailer weight would be. Next is your drivers license and most are a standard license with a under 26K rating. Your F150 is not designed for that kind of weight....will it pull it...sure....will it stop it...doubtful. Then there are the tire ratings....the load binder ratings, chain ratings hitch ratings, etc. Lots to consider ......
I have a 2015 F-150 that I use to tow my Cat 22 weight 6,700#. My pickup with full fuel (36 gallons) and me weighs 5,760#, my trailer weighs 3,000#. That puts me at 15,460# going down the road not counting weight of hitch and tie down chains. Like Cysco said, your truck manual shows you the maximum gross weight of your towing vehicle and load. Mine is16,900#.
Another thing to consider. If you want to mount a winch to your trailer, consider getting a full tilt. Just my opinion.
Hope that helps you decide. Oh, by the way, don't expect to stop on a dime even with good trailer brakes!!
Pete
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Sun, Nov 20, 2022 5:32 AM
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I have a 2015 F-150 that I use to tow my Cat 22 weight 6,700#. My pickup with full fuel (36 gallons) and me weighs 5,760#, my trailer weighs 3,000#. That puts me at 15,460# going down the road not counting weight of hitch and tie down chains. Like Cysco said, your truck manual shows you the maximum gross weight of your towing vehicle and load. Mine is16,900#.
Another thing to consider. If you want to mount a winch to your trailer, consider getting a full tilt. Just my opinion.
Hope that helps you decide. Oh, by the way, don't expect to stop on a dime even with good trailer brakes!!
Pete
3/4 ton and 16,000# trailer - you will want to haul more than the d2. Truck then rated at 10,000# and trailer at 16,000# legal with no cdl. I run F250 6.7 with 21,000# tilt trailer rated at 16,000#. Legal load is about 12,000# +-. depending the number of people tagging along.. Just hauled D2 TRAXCAVATOR with Hyster winch over smoky mountains, never slowed down.
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Sun, Nov 20, 2022 7:22 AM
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3/4 ton and 16,000# trailer - you will want to haul more than the d2. Truck then rated at 10,000# and trailer at 16,000# legal with no cdl. I run F250 6.7 with 21,000# tilt trailer rated at 16,000#. Legal load is about 12,000# +-. depending the number of people tagging along.. Just hauled D2 TRAXCAVATOR with Hyster winch over smoky mountains, never slowed down.
Great input everyone. Thanks. JM, you are correct on trailer prices, they are crazy right now.
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Sun, Nov 20, 2022 8:24 AM
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I use a local rock yard to have my D4 7U moved. close to14000#. Move is about 90 miles one way, $450.00 
so find it better for me to do it this way, less headaches and the cost of having my own truck and trailer,insurance etc. is out of this world now days.
 
 
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Sun, Nov 20, 2022 11:40 AM
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I use a local rock yard to have my D4 7U moved. close to14000#. Move is about 90 miles one way, $450.00 
so find it better for me to do it this way, less headaches and the cost of having my own truck and trailer,insurance etc. is out of this world now days.
 
 
a point of warning about weight distibution hitches!

any salesman that tell you they take weight off or allow you to tow more is quite frankly talking out of thier arse!
they actually add weight.
what they do is level the hitch by using torque via spring force via the towbar and the chassis to pivot the chassis around the rear axle this actually ADDS weight and forces the trailer to ride more level.

the correct term is a load levelling hitch.

dont believe me go have a look at the videos on youtube by automotive engineers turned motoring journalists robert pepper and john codogan.

they are dangerous if used incorrectly and can cause serious structural damage to your vehicle when used, fitted or selected incorrectly. traversing gutters culverts deep pot holes and dips or washouts in the road are all problematic for load levelling hitches and often this is when they fail or damage the vehicle

if you want to tow more than 2.5tonnes go get a proper light truck and no im not referring to a pick up truck most of them are toys. i mean a proper body truck.

the best thing to shift old crawlers around is a old bogie drive prime-mover fitted with a beaver tail traybody which will do d4 size gear maybe d5 size
or shell out for a small prime mover and a drop deck trailer and cart a few at once.
many blokes over here shift d4 and smaller on bogie drive tiltray trucks and simply hire truck and driver when required.
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Sun, Nov 20, 2022 6:19 PM
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