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Asterix
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Hello everybody,
I had a bad day yesterday when I found thata luky guy (luky since I coudn't find him) put a handful of dust in my d342 engine.

I found the oil refill cap dirty and looking at the oil filters I found traces of sand there.

In the worst case a couple of days of work in such conditions

Someone suggests to wash the engine with fuel 40 lt + oil 20 lt and change again filters and oil after 10 min of work.

Suggestions apart from a good wood to wait with for the luky guy ?

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Thu, Jul 14, 2011 1:03 PM
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Asterix,
Sorry to hear about your d342 engine being dusted and the oil contaninated with sand!! that's a bad deal!:mmph:

I hope you get to find that lucky guy! and then show him how lucky he realy WAS!:rip:

Senseless destruction of machinery is unforgiveable!
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Thu, Jul 14, 2011 3:20 PM
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Asterix,
Sorry to hear about your d342 engine being dusted and the oil contaninated with sand!! that's a bad deal!:mmph:

I hope you get to find that lucky guy! and then show him how lucky he realy WAS!:rip:

Senseless destruction of machinery is unforgiveable!
Mike.
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Did you find the dirt before the engine ran? If yes, then maybe you can drop the oil pan or take off all the cover plates and spray wash it down. I wouldn't want to suck sand through an oil pump in order to put it in the filters for removal. It will be hard to keep it in suspension floating in oil to remove it. I would definitely try to wash as much out as possible before running the engine.

Make sure its GOOD hardwood you give that guy, so he will never mess with you again!!!!
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Thu, Jul 14, 2011 6:00 PM
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Did you find the dirt before the engine ran? If yes, then maybe you can drop the oil pan or take off all the cover plates and spray wash it down. I wouldn't want to suck sand through an oil pump in order to put it in the filters for removal. It will be hard to keep it in suspension floating in oil to remove it. I would definitely try to wash as much out as possible before running the engine.

Make sure its GOOD hardwood you give that guy, so he will never mess with you again!!!!
Unfortunately I discovered the mess after the machine worked and I dont' know how much work did in such conditions from 1 hour to 20 hour. I have already changed oil and filters but I doubt there is someting around.

This is why the assitence told me to try washing out as I specified above.

How serious can be the damage ? oil pressure is still ok

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Thu, Jul 14, 2011 7:25 PM
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Unfortunately I discovered the mess after the machine worked and I dont' know how much work did in such conditions from 1 hour to 20 hour. I have already changed oil and filters but I doubt there is someting around.

This is why the assitence told me to try washing out as I specified above.

How serious can be the damage ? oil pressure is still ok

A.
I'd still pull the access covers and clean the pan, also check the oil pump screen to see if it's partially clogged. As far as washing the engine afterward, I'd add a gallon of diesel to your regular oil, warm it up and let it idle a bit and then drain. After another 3-4 hours, change oil again.

Those maroons that pull stunts like that need some "guidance" with a bat!! And maybe a nice long tap dance on their paws so they don't forget!
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Thu, Jul 14, 2011 9:13 PM
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I'd still pull the access covers and clean the pan, also check the oil pump screen to see if it's partially clogged. As far as washing the engine afterward, I'd add a gallon of diesel to your regular oil, warm it up and let it idle a bit and then drain. After another 3-4 hours, change oil again.

Those maroons that pull stunts like that need some "guidance" with a bat!! And maybe a nice long tap dance on their paws so they don't forget!
As long as the oil filters did not plug up and cause the relief valves to open they probably did the job of keeping the contaminents out of the oil galleries. Not near as bad as having a unit go through a flood where sediment is distrubuted everywhere.

Good advice on washing the bottom end and frequent oil and filter changes until clean. The oil pump probably took the brunt of the damage but if pressure is still good it probably just took some expected life off the unit.
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Thu, Jul 14, 2011 9:39 PM
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Unfortunately I discovered the mess after the machine worked and I dont' know how much work did in such conditions from 1 hour to 20 hour. I have already changed oil and filters but I doubt there is someting around.

This is why the assitence told me to try washing out as I specified above.

How serious can be the damage ? oil pressure is still ok

A.
We had a pair of combines dusted a number of years ago on which we were useing oil analysis. We got a phone call from the lab, they said shut those engines down immediately. We said we can't do that and they said we expected that response. Then change oil and filters now and again tonite and at noon tomorrow and get samples right to us. They said there is considerable damage, we asked how long they might run, they said probably several days changing the oil twice a day. We decided to try to finish harvest, we had about two or three days left. One engine blew up as we put it in the shed, cost about $1500 more to fix it than the other one. The good thing was since we were on analysis our insurance paid for them. Whoever did it wasn't mad at any one in particular as four of us neighbors had combines, tractor and a truck dusted the same night.
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Thu, Jul 14, 2011 9:46 PM
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We had a pair of combines dusted a number of years ago on which we were useing oil analysis. We got a phone call from the lab, they said shut those engines down immediately. We said we can't do that and they said we expected that response. Then change oil and filters now and again tonite and at noon tomorrow and get samples right to us. They said there is considerable damage, we asked how long they might run, they said probably several days changing the oil twice a day. We decided to try to finish harvest, we had about two or three days left. One engine blew up as we put it in the shed, cost about $1500 more to fix it than the other one. The good thing was since we were on analysis our insurance paid for them. Whoever did it wasn't mad at any one in particular as four of us neighbors had combines, tractor and a truck dusted the same night.
lt happens here to logging equipment on occasion, if they where caught they could only hope it was by the Police. l put wildlife cams on my machinery when im not around,not really nessecery though as the big fella is rather protective of Dads toys and takes a dim view of anything or body that comes close without introduction.
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Fri, Jul 15, 2011 12:33 AM
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lt happens here to logging equipment on occasion, if they where caught they could only hope it was by the Police. l put wildlife cams on my machinery when im not around,not really nessecery though as the big fella is rather protective of Dads toys and takes a dim view of anything or body that comes close without introduction.
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We had a local dirt contractor found out one of his competors had a thing going on with his wife, he resorted to revenge-vandelized the other guys equipment, got cought, spent the next year in jail, I dont think his wife missed him while he was gone
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