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drive sproket alignment to roller frame on d69u

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ncfarm
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in pics the the sproket is rubbing the idler on the inside edge. for both sides. my question is, does the machine need to be lifted to take wt. off the tracks so the adjustment can be made? also are the shims still available? is there any adjustment needed at the from equalizer spring? is some contact expected in these older machines? thanks ty
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Fri, Sep 22, 2017 4:00 AM
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looks like possibly the sprocket rings were replaced at some point, it is possible that they weren't aligned properly during the welding process, also might want to check the outer bushings/bearings on the track frame, they help keep the track frame aligned, and they are usually worn out, this lets the track frame move to a toed out position which can cause the rollers to rub as well. they are about 8 inches in diameter and are under the big plate on the end of the dead axle and outer sprocket shaft bearing. Sprocket shaft bearings on the outer end of the dead axle could also be toasted which would let the sprocket move around and also potentially contact the rollers.

there are no adjustments on the inner track frame bushings, but if they were worn out they would also contribute to a toed-out or toed in condition for the track frame which could cause roller contact.
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Fri, Sep 22, 2017 4:31 AM
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With the roller hitting the inside of the sprocket you would want to REMOVE shims behind the nut and washer under the cover on the rear track frame support. First look to see that there is room for the diagonal brace bearings to move inward.
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Fri, Sep 22, 2017 4:36 AM
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looks like possibly the sprocket rings were replaced at some point, it is possible that they weren't aligned properly during the welding process, also might want to check the outer bushings/bearings on the track frame, they help keep the track frame aligned, and they are usually worn out, this lets the track frame move to a toed out position which can cause the rollers to rub as well. they are about 8 inches in diameter and are under the big plate on the end of the dead axle and outer sprocket shaft bearing. Sprocket shaft bearings on the outer end of the dead axle could also be toasted which would let the sprocket move around and also potentially contact the rollers.

there are no adjustments on the inner track frame bushings, but if they were worn out they would also contribute to a toed-out or toed in condition for the track frame which could cause roller contact.


I think you might be right, looks like the ring was welding to the inside of the spokes instead of on center??
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Fri, Sep 22, 2017 5:24 AM
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if he shimming is correct, (i don't recall any shims in mine, and don't have a parts book with me to look) then you could just as easy cut the sprocket ring off and weld it in the proper place. i did a sprocket ring swap between two sprockets as i had one with a bad sprocket and a good hub, and one with bad hub splines but a good sprocket. they were off the machine and i laid them on my big welding table and had a magnetic base dial indicator set up to make sure my ring was welded on straight and true and round. i just used 7018 rod to weld the rings on.

i can't remember if it was on here, or the ACME forum, but Mike Meyer and EDB replaced the sprocket rings on a RD6 and did a great job of documenting the process with write up and photo's. there are also some good conservation bulletins posted in the technical section for undercarriage repairs.
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Fri, Sep 22, 2017 10:19 PM
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if he shimming is correct, (i don't recall any shims in mine, and don't have a parts book with me to look) then you could just as easy cut the sprocket ring off and weld it in the proper place. i did a sprocket ring swap between two sprockets as i had one with a bad sprocket and a good hub, and one with bad hub splines but a good sprocket. they were off the machine and i laid them on my big welding table and had a magnetic base dial indicator set up to make sure my ring was welded on straight and true and round. i just used 7018 rod to weld the rings on.

i can't remember if it was on here, or the ACME forum, but Mike Meyer and EDB replaced the sprocket rings on a RD6 and did a great job of documenting the process with write up and photo's. there are also some good conservation bulletins posted in the technical section for undercarriage repairs.
My brother in law used #12? machine screws with small washers and nuts to clamp the spoke and hold the proper alignment and welding gap when he welded sprocket rings in place on his D4D. It came out great.
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Sat, Sep 23, 2017 10:04 AM
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My brother in law used #12? machine screws with small washers and nuts to clamp the spoke and hold the proper alignment and welding gap when he welded sprocket rings in place on his D4D. It came out great.
Check that the axle is not bent. If the axle is bent toward the front the sprocket will be running closer near the roller.
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Tue, Sep 26, 2017 8:56 PM
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Check that the axle is not bent. If the axle is bent toward the front the sprocket will be running closer near the roller.
First thing to do would be to take a crow bar { 6 foot fencing bar } and check for movement of the sprocket or roller .
Surely if someone is going to weld on a sprocket rim they are going to do it correctly.
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Wed, Sep 27, 2017 4:07 AM
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