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ByronDiesel40
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Hi, I have a diesel forty with a pitted cylinder liner and I’m trying to remove it, have a liner puller on it and it is very tight and will not move, have tried tapping the bottom of the liner with a piece of timber. Are there liners usually very tight to remove? I have recently purchased this machine and was not in operating condition when purchased.
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Sat, Jun 29, 2019 12:18 PM
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Yes, they can be frozen. I have some that I'm thinking of cooling with dry ice to get them moving.
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Sat, Jun 29, 2019 1:44 PM
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Yes, they can be frozen. I have some that I'm thinking of cooling with dry ice to get them moving.
I have removed liners using a hydraulic jack on the ground and using a suitable bar , pushing them out from underneath.
Also we need photos of your machine.
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Sat, Jun 29, 2019 2:59 PM
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I have removed liners using a hydraulic jack on the ground and using a suitable bar , pushing them out from underneath.
Also we need photos of your machine.
Thanks guys,
I’ll try that Stephen.
The only problem is Andrew, the engine is off the machine.
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Sat, Jun 29, 2019 4:50 PM
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Thanks guys,
I’ll try that Stephen.
The only problem is Andrew, the engine is off the machine.
If the liner is unusable. Run a few heavy beads lenthwise inside with a welder. When it cools it should come out but it will be junk. I have never done it but I have seen it done succesfully
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If the liner is unusable. Run a few heavy beads lenthwise inside with a welder. When it cools it should come out but it will be junk. I have never done it but I have seen it done succesfully
ok just be careful you can set up a hydraulic puller from the top using a hollow hydraulic cylinder with the proper size rod and bottom plate the o-rings are dry and stuck to the block there is most likely a lot of sediment in the bottom of the block i would pull all the sleeves and have the block boiled or cleaned
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Sat, Jun 29, 2019 5:22 PM
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ok just be careful you can set up a hydraulic puller from the top using a hollow hydraulic cylinder with the proper size rod and bottom plate the o-rings are dry and stuck to the block there is most likely a lot of sediment in the bottom of the block i would pull all the sleeves and have the block boiled or cleaned
I have seen the welding work. I believe they came out without any pull gear but it was years ago.
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Sun, Jun 30, 2019 5:58 AM
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I have seen the welding work. I believe they came out without any pull gear but it was years ago.
Diesel Forty engines are 5.25 bore, I would be trying to save the sleeve if at all possible because 5.25 stuff is very hard to obtain. They are a very thick sleeve, I have heard of them being machined and a thin press/shrink fit sleeve fitted into them.

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Sun, Jun 30, 2019 7:44 AM
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Diesel Forty engines are 5.25 bore, I would be trying to save the sleeve if at all possible because 5.25 stuff is very hard to obtain. They are a very thick sleeve, I have heard of them being machined and a thin press/shrink fit sleeve fitted into them.

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[quote="Wombat"]Diesel Forty engines are 5.25 bore, I would be trying to save the sleeve if at all possible because 5.25 stuff is very hard to obtain. They are a very thick sleeve, I have heard of them being machined and a thin press/shrink fit sleeve fitted into them.

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That is an interesting idea, and why I try not to throw out very much because I think it is bad today. I guess since the sleeve have ID wall side reliefs for the valves it would have to be blind bored from the bottom to stop just above ring travel?
If anyone has done this please chime in!
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Sun, Jun 30, 2019 8:52 AM
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[quote="Wombat"]Diesel Forty engines are 5.25 bore, I would be trying to save the sleeve if at all possible because 5.25 stuff is very hard to obtain. They are a very thick sleeve, I have heard of them being machined and a thin press/shrink fit sleeve fitted into them.

Wombat[/quote]

That is an interesting idea, and why I try not to throw out very much because I think it is bad today. I guess since the sleeve have ID wall side reliefs for the valves it would have to be blind bored from the bottom to stop just above ring travel?
If anyone has done this please chime in!
Hi Team,
trust me, I have seen cylinders bored from the bottom or all the way thru--it sometimes does not work if the sleeve is fitted slightly on the loose side as the friction of the rings etc. on the power stroke eventually can overcome the sleeve friction and pull the sleeve into the rotating crank and !!!

Gardner LW range diesels at least have the same valve cut outs in the cylinders and when I did my 5LW we fitted the sleeves from the top to a ridge at the bottom and ground away the valve reliefs areas from the fitted sleeves with a die grinder--unit ran in the old Thornycroft truck carrying the 2 Ton and towing the 6 HP Austral portable oil engine that weighed some 2.5 ton for miles and miles without dramas.
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