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STEPHEN
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I am having a serious look at getting D7700 and D8800 head gaskets manufactured. They would be like the original gaskets, that is the core material would be fully wrapped on the outside, bores, and all holes. They would be faced in steel, not copper like the earliest style. Cost would be between $200 and $300 for a set of two. If anyone wants to get onboard, please email me, mymachinery at repairman.com ,better than a PM thanks
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Thu, Mar 1, 2018 11:04 PM
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Hey Stephen, Cuz Casey and I discussed this just the other day, if a fellow could put it all on 2DCAD then have it cut by flowjet, the cost would be minimal. I personally think that annealed copper would be the best with a micro layer coating of RTV on both sides but I don't claim to know what I am talking about. Did the original gasket have the fire ring around the top of the cylinder or does the sleeve protrusion seat against the head? Did the original gasket have the copper rings around all the water ports? A fellow could have it cut on a CNC mill as well, just as fast, considerably cleaner, with crisper edges. Sounds like a fun project to me. Tad
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Fri, Mar 2, 2018 10:17 AM
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Hey Stephen, Cuz Casey and I discussed this just the other day, if a fellow could put it all on 2DCAD then have it cut by flowjet, the cost would be minimal. I personally think that annealed copper would be the best with a micro layer coating of RTV on both sides but I don't claim to know what I am talking about. Did the original gasket have the fire ring around the top of the cylinder or does the sleeve protrusion seat against the head? Did the original gasket have the copper rings around all the water ports? A fellow could have it cut on a CNC mill as well, just as fast, considerably cleaner, with crisper edges. Sounds like a fun project to me. Tad
One of the real nice Aussie ACMOC members Rax200 went down this path last year and had a stack of new copper gaskets hand made in Bangkok by a small hole in the wall gasket shop, I bought quite a few and they look great and the price was ridiculously cheap, like around $US40 for a 4 cylinder head gasket for a Fifteen, other head gaskets made at the time were for the 22, 2 Ton and 30 plus manifold gaskets, obviously gaskets not available from Cat.

Daryl is making them available to all Chapter 18 and 19 members here in Oz with profits to the local ACMOC Chapter 19 and I'm sure he would be happy to help international members, plans are to make other gaskets as needed including Cat Ten manifold and head gaskets, if you have a sample of the D50 head gasket Stephen, then Daryl is the guy to help you.
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Fri, Mar 2, 2018 11:54 AM
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Hey Stephen, Cuz Casey and I discussed this just the other day, if a fellow could put it all on 2DCAD then have it cut by flowjet, the cost would be minimal. I personally think that annealed copper would be the best with a micro layer coating of RTV on both sides but I don't claim to know what I am talking about. Did the original gasket have the fire ring around the top of the cylinder or does the sleeve protrusion seat against the head? Did the original gasket have the copper rings around all the water ports? A fellow could have it cut on a CNC mill as well, just as fast, considerably cleaner, with crisper edges. Sounds like a fun project to me. Tad
[QUOTE=Tad Wicks;201875]Hey Stephen, Cuz Casey and I discussed this just the other day, if a fellow could put it all on 2DCAD then have it cut by flowjet, the cost would be minimal. I personally think that annealed copper would be the best with a micro layer coating of RTV on both sides but I don't claim to know what I am talking about. Did the original gasket have the fire ring around the top of the cylinder or does the sleeve protrusion seat against the head? Did the original gasket have the copper rings around all the water ports? A fellow could have it cut on a CNC mill as well, just as fast, considerably cleaner, with crisper edges. Sounds like a fun project to me. Tad[/QUOTE
Tad the original gasket was copper wrapped on the 50, and RD7, but the latest rev drawing was in steel. There isn't any exposed fiber, everything is wrapped. They are not separate rings, but one sheet is larger and wraps around the exposed fiber and laps over the sheet on the other side.
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Fri, Mar 2, 2018 12:49 PM
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One of the real nice Aussie ACMOC members Rax200 went down this path last year and had a stack of new copper gaskets hand made in Bangkok by a small hole in the wall gasket shop, I bought quite a few and they look great and the price was ridiculously cheap, like around $US40 for a 4 cylinder head gasket for a Fifteen, other head gaskets made at the time were for the 22, 2 Ton and 30 plus manifold gaskets, obviously gaskets not available from Cat.

Daryl is making them available to all Chapter 18 and 19 members here in Oz with profits to the local ACMOC Chapter 19 and I'm sure he would be happy to help international members, plans are to make other gaskets as needed including Cat Ten manifold and head gaskets, if you have a sample of the D50 head gasket Stephen, then Daryl is the guy to help you.
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[quote="Mike Meyer"]One of the real nice Aussie ACMOC members Rax200 went down this path last year and had a stack of new copper gaskets hand made in Bangkok by a small hole in the wall gasket shop, I bought quite a few and they look great and the price was ridiculously cheap, like around $US40 for a 4 cylinder head gasket for a Fifteen, other head gaskets made at the time were for the 22, 2 Ton and 30 plus manifold gaskets, obviously gaskets not available from Cat.

Daryl is making them available to all Chapter 18 and 19 members here in Oz with profits to the local ACMOC Chapter 19 and I'm sure he would be happy to help international members, plans are to make other gaskets as needed including Cat Ten manifold and head gaskets, if you have a sample of the D50 head gasket Stephen, then Daryl is the guy to help you.
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Mike[/quote]

Mike, I have sent a drawing overseas. I think the steel wrapped would be better than copper for the diesel. My original gaskets were ruptured on the combustion fold of the fire ring. All that remains is to send the guy the weight of one gasket & get a shipping cost and ETA. I will proceed to order a mix of the two bore sizes. Just thinking someone might want to go along for the ride.
Then the 6100/1100. And 6600/13000 gaskets in turn could be made.
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Fri, Mar 2, 2018 1:00 PM
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Reply to STEPHEN:
[quote="Mike Meyer"]One of the real nice Aussie ACMOC members Rax200 went down this path last year and had a stack of new copper gaskets hand made in Bangkok by a small hole in the wall gasket shop, I bought quite a few and they look great and the price was ridiculously cheap, like around $US40 for a 4 cylinder head gasket for a Fifteen, other head gaskets made at the time were for the 22, 2 Ton and 30 plus manifold gaskets, obviously gaskets not available from Cat.

Daryl is making them available to all Chapter 18 and 19 members here in Oz with profits to the local ACMOC Chapter 19 and I'm sure he would be happy to help international members, plans are to make other gaskets as needed including Cat Ten manifold and head gaskets, if you have a sample of the D50 head gasket Stephen, then Daryl is the guy to help you.
Regards
Mike[/quote]

Mike, I have sent a drawing overseas. I think the steel wrapped would be better than copper for the diesel. My original gaskets were ruptured on the combustion fold of the fire ring. All that remains is to send the guy the weight of one gasket & get a shipping cost and ETA. I will proceed to order a mix of the two bore sizes. Just thinking someone might want to go along for the ride.
Then the 6100/1100. And 6600/13000 gaskets in turn could be made.
So if you are doing the late style d50 gaskets would they have large diameter water passage holes? Designed like the later head gaskets for engines with the water ferrels and rubber rings? I have seen a lot of this style. The originals had small water passage holes, just the size of the holes in block and head. The gaskets with large holes do not work well with the none ferrel/rubber ring heads and blocks, leaves very little contact surface, and make leaky engines.
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Fri, Mar 2, 2018 11:25 PM
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So if you are doing the late style d50 gaskets would they have large diameter water passage holes? Designed like the later head gaskets for engines with the water ferrels and rubber rings? I have seen a lot of this style. The originals had small water passage holes, just the size of the holes in block and head. The gaskets with large holes do not work well with the none ferrel/rubber ring heads and blocks, leaves very little contact surface, and make leaky engines.


Brian, yes the later style gasket for ferrules because that is what I need right now. In my case someone put it back together with out the seals and with the leaking/rust. And the D8800 gasket for my power unit.
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Sat, Mar 3, 2018 1:13 AM
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Brian, yes the later style gasket for ferrules because that is what I need right now. In my case someone put it back together with out the seals and with the leaking/rust. And the D8800 gasket for my power unit.
I've seen the parts you make Stephen and they are first class, I'm sure you will come up with some good head gaskets.
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Sat, Mar 3, 2018 1:59 AM
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I've seen the parts you make Stephen and they are first class, I'm sure you will come up with some good head gaskets.
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[quote="Mike Meyer"]I've seen the parts you make Stephen and they are first class, I'm sure you will come up with some good head gaskets.
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Thanks Mike, I got to get some tractors done around here.
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Sat, Mar 3, 2018 8:17 AM
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[quote="Mike Meyer"]I've seen the parts you make Stephen and they are first class, I'm sure you will come up with some good head gaskets.
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Thanks Mike, I got to get some tractors done around here.
Is it the case that "Olson's" does not have these gaskets?
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Sat, Mar 3, 2018 10:14 AM
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Is it the case that "Olson's" does not have these gaskets?

OM, not in the jacketed style, also too thick by .062, and the fire ring was adapted from a larger ring by being cut and overlapped. I just want the original style.
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