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mlauck
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Hello all. I have a D8H 46A. Have owned it for 3 years now and I am sick of fighting with the pony motor. I went and bought a starter with the conversion plate and the rest of the electrical that I need (24v alternator, switch etc...) and want to go that route. I have a service manual, and it says I need to drain the torque converter before I pull the pony off. Do I really need to do this? Because taking off and putting back on the rear stump pan to get to the drain will make for a whole lot of grunt work.

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Sat, Oct 6, 2018 6:54 AM
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Better fix the pony, I've had a pony motor on a D7E for 52 years and not one problem! Rebuilt once and just done minor maintenance, points, plugs, oil changes etc. I you understand it, run it properly and take care of it, it will always be dependable.
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Sat, Oct 6, 2018 7:17 AM
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Better fix the pony, I've had a pony motor on a D7E for 52 years and not one problem! Rebuilt once and just done minor maintenance, points, plugs, oil changes etc. I you understand it, run it properly and take care of it, it will always be dependable.
Don't know why you would have to drain the Torque Converter housing to remove a pilot motor and fit an electric starter, if the oil in it is that high you have major problems with your Torque Converter or scavenge pump, should only be a small amount of oil in bottom of housing.

I had a 270 D8H that had been converted over to 24v electric start, PC chambers, glow plugs etc. Was a delight to use compared to the first D8H I had with a Pilot Motor. You do need to have good batteries, if it is a regularly used tractor definitely the way to go, however if it is very infrequently used, battery life and charge could be an issue.

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Sat, Oct 6, 2018 9:01 AM
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Don't know why you would have to drain the Torque Converter housing to remove a pilot motor and fit an electric starter, if the oil in it is that high you have major problems with your Torque Converter or scavenge pump, should only be a small amount of oil in bottom of housing.

I had a 270 D8H that had been converted over to 24v electric start, PC chambers, glow plugs etc. Was a delight to use compared to the first D8H I had with a Pilot Motor. You do need to have good batteries, if it is a regularly used tractor definitely the way to go, however if it is very infrequently used, battery life and charge could be an issue.

Wombat
Nothing wrong with pony motor if you keep it in shape. Ran one on a D7 6T for 12 years and it worked good.catskinner
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Sat, Oct 6, 2018 9:57 AM
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Nothing wrong with pony motor if you keep it in shape. Ran one on a D7 6T for 12 years and it worked good.catskinner
What Wombat says is spot-on, and if you don't fit glow plugs and use them well, you will spend a lot of time struggling with flat batteries.
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Sat, Oct 6, 2018 1:57 PM
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What Wombat says is spot-on, and if you don't fit glow plugs and use them well, you will spend a lot of time struggling with flat batteries.
You only need to drain down the Torque case if you are going to change the starting drive ring gear to straight cut teeth for a standard starter motor to be used, as already said pre chambers that take heater plugs and wire rail will also be needed, to do a full job can take near a week of work, some years ago it was a common task for myself to undertake, I hope things go well for you. tctractors
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Sun, Oct 7, 2018 3:09 AM
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You only need to drain down the Torque case if you are going to change the starting drive ring gear to straight cut teeth for a standard starter motor to be used, as already said pre chambers that take heater plugs and wire rail will also be needed, to do a full job can take near a week of work, some years ago it was a common task for myself to undertake, I hope things go well for you. tctractors
Thanks for the info everyone!
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