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Hello .
I am thinking of buying this old 8 and would like if someone could tell me what year it is (approx) and some details . It has a pup start and the large lever for the blade . It is out of my year range however there seems to be lots of life in the undercarriage .
I hope the pictures load up ok and would appreciate any reports from the Acmoc members .
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Mon, Apr 27, 2015 7:44 AM
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If you find the serial number you can find out exactly what year.
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Mon, Apr 27, 2015 8:06 AM
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If you find the serial number you can find out exactly what year.
Hey Ford,

10k is correct. Look on the back of the tractor close to upper left track on rear plate. You should be able to find two tags, one is a serial plate, the other states which gearing or transmission group your have. You can find another serial plate on left side of engine. The engine and tractor serial should match unless engine swap accured. The tractor is a D8-H model. Picture is blurry when I tried to look closer, but looks like I saw a clutch handle. If that is correct it should be a 36-a tractor. See if you can find a serial number and report back.
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Mon, Apr 27, 2015 8:37 AM
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If you find the serial number you can find out exactly what year.
Hi, Ford.
As D6c10k said, a serial number would get you an exact year of manufacture. From your photos, I would suggest that it's a 235 horsepower H series which would make it early 1960s and the 'large lever for the blade' would seem to bear that out. A good reliable tractor unless it has beaten 1/2 to death in the past. The 'lots of life in the undercarriage' would be a bonus.

Just in case you don't know, the serial number is located on the left side of the rear face of the steering clutch case on a stamped aluminum tag rivetted to the casting. If said tag is missing, the number should be stamped into the casting where the tag would have been. If the tag is missing, look for the rivet marks to locate where the tag was. There should also be a tag on the rear left of the diesel engine block, inboard of the starter pinion and clutch, again on a stamped aluminum tag.

Hope this helps.

Just my 0.02.

You have a wonderful day. Best wishes. Deas Plant.

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Mon, Apr 27, 2015 8:54 AM
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Hi, Ford.
As D6c10k said, a serial number would get you an exact year of manufacture. From your photos, I would suggest that it's a 235 horsepower H series which would make it early 1960s and the 'large lever for the blade' would seem to bear that out. A good reliable tractor unless it has beaten 1/2 to death in the past. The 'lots of life in the undercarriage' would be a bonus.

Just in case you don't know, the serial number is located on the left side of the rear face of the steering clutch case on a stamped aluminum tag rivetted to the casting. If said tag is missing, the number should be stamped into the casting where the tag would have been. If the tag is missing, look for the rivet marks to locate where the tag was. There should also be a tag on the rear left of the diesel engine block, inboard of the starter pinion and clutch, again on a stamped aluminum tag.

Hope this helps.

Just my 0.02.
[quote="Deas Plant."]Hi, Ford.
As D6c10k said, a serial number would get you an exact year of manufacture. From your photos, I would suggest that it's a 235 horsepower H series which would make it early 1960s and the 'large lever for the blade' would seem to bear that out. A good reliable tractor unless it has beaten 1/2 to death in the past. The 'lots of life in the undercarriage' would be a bonus.

Just in case you don't know, the serial number is located on the left side of the rear face of the steering clutch case on a stamped aluminum tag rivetted to the casting. If said tag is missing, the number should be stamped into the casting where the tag would have been. If the tag is missing, look for the rivet marks to locate where the tag was. There should also be a tag on the rear left of the diesel engine block, inboard of the starter pinion and clutch, again on a stamped aluminum tag.

Hope this helps.

Just my 0.02.[/quote]
Hello . Thank you all for your reply - I was thinking early 60,s myself from google picture searching the tractor . But I crawled all over the place except the engine compartment and could not find a tag or Plate . I will have to spend more time and search in around the engine and search where you suggest !
The next time I go see I will take more detailed photos and post them . The undercarriage looks really good ! I am not familiar running these dozers at all .
Thanks for your posts ,
Ford
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Mon, Apr 27, 2015 11:06 AM
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Hi, Ford.
As D6c10k said, a serial number would get you an exact year of manufacture. From your photos, I would suggest that it's a 235 horsepower H series which would make it early 1960s and the 'large lever for the blade' would seem to bear that out. A good reliable tractor unless it has beaten 1/2 to death in the past. The 'lots of life in the undercarriage' would be a bonus.

Just in case you don't know, the serial number is located on the left side of the rear face of the steering clutch case on a stamped aluminum tag rivetted to the casting. If said tag is missing, the number should be stamped into the casting where the tag would have been. If the tag is missing, look for the rivet marks to locate where the tag was. There should also be a tag on the rear left of the diesel engine block, inboard of the starter pinion and clutch, again on a stamped aluminum tag.

Hope this helps.

Just my 0.02.
[quote="Deas Plant."]Hi, Ford.
As D6c10k said, a serial number would get you an exact year of manufacture. From your photos, I would suggest that it's a 235 horsepower H series which would make it early 1960s and the 'large lever for the blade' would seem to bear that out. A good reliable tractor unless it has beaten 1/2 to death in the past. The 'lots of life in the undercarriage' would be a bonus.

Just in case you don't know, the serial number is located on the left side of the rear face of the steering clutch case on a stamped aluminum tag rivetted to the casting. If said tag is missing, the number should be stamped into the casting where the tag would have been. If the tag is missing, look for the rivet marks to locate where the tag was. There should also be a tag on the rear left of the diesel engine block, inboard of the starter pinion and clutch, again on a stamped aluminum tag.

Hope this helps.

Just my 0.02.[/quote]
I think the seller said the tractor is one year before the power shift came out . Not sure though . Also said the tractor has lots of low end power and the gear shift tag says it has 6 forward gears ,

Ford
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Mon, Apr 27, 2015 11:10 AM
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[quote="Deas Plant."]Hi, Ford.
As D6c10k said, a serial number would get you an exact year of manufacture. From your photos, I would suggest that it's a 235 horsepower H series which would make it early 1960s and the 'large lever for the blade' would seem to bear that out. A good reliable tractor unless it has beaten 1/2 to death in the past. The 'lots of life in the undercarriage' would be a bonus.

Just in case you don't know, the serial number is located on the left side of the rear face of the steering clutch case on a stamped aluminum tag rivetted to the casting. If said tag is missing, the number should be stamped into the casting where the tag would have been. If the tag is missing, look for the rivet marks to locate where the tag was. There should also be a tag on the rear left of the diesel engine block, inboard of the starter pinion and clutch, again on a stamped aluminum tag.

Hope this helps.

Just my 0.02.[/quote]
I think the seller said the tractor is one year before the power shift came out . Not sure though . Also said the tractor has lots of low end power and the gear shift tag says it has 6 forward gears ,

Ford
I thought a H should have the serial number on the lower dashboard near your toes....
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Mon, Apr 27, 2015 12:17 PM
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I thought a H should have the serial number on the lower dashboard near your toes....
Yup, should be a serial number on the dash by you toes, US built 36A or UK built 22A, certainly a couple of years later than the first power shift with those outside mount top rollers and the earliest ones had larger hydraulic rams. Not so sure about plenty of life in the in the U/C, the pads are around 75% gone, the roller flanges look awfully close to the pin bosses and that rear top roller is just about worn out with the front one not much better. A few more photos would help a lot, but it certainly looks a very 'straight' tractor otherwise.
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Mon, Apr 27, 2015 6:01 PM
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Yup, should be a serial number on the dash by you toes, US built 36A or UK built 22A, certainly a couple of years later than the first power shift with those outside mount top rollers and the earliest ones had larger hydraulic rams. Not so sure about plenty of life in the in the U/C, the pads are around 75% gone, the roller flanges look awfully close to the pin bosses and that rear top roller is just about worn out with the front one not much better. A few more photos would help a lot, but it certainly looks a very 'straight' tractor otherwise.
Hey Ford,

Not all D8-H models had the serial plate on the dash. Here is a picture of my 36-a with serial stamped on rear. Mine has the six speed your referring to. Let us know the serial when you find it. glen[attachment=28673]image.jpg[/attachment]
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Tue, Apr 28, 2015 12:34 AM
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Hey Ford,

Not all D8-H models had the serial plate on the dash. Here is a picture of my 36-a with serial stamped on rear. Mine has the six speed your referring to. Let us know the serial when you find it. glen[attachment=28673]image.jpg[/attachment]
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Nice looking unit, but I agree with catsilver. The undercarriage is suspect. It always is. When ever you are told that there 50% remaining, it usually means it's hard to keep the tracks on and 90% means it is on the last half worn on turned pins and bushings. OzDozer said it best (and I paraphrase)that most don't know what the undercarriage should look like to be 50%. The best judge of track ware is with measurements between 5 pins. I have searched for the site that has all the specs but am unable to recall it. I'm sure someone here will provide it for you. If your purpose for acquisition is for a short term project, then what is there might serve you well. Good luck.
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Tue, Apr 28, 2015 1:25 AM
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Nice looking unit, but I agree with catsilver. The undercarriage is suspect. It always is. When ever you are told that there 50% remaining, it usually means it's hard to keep the tracks on and 90% means it is on the last half worn on turned pins and bushings. OzDozer said it best (and I paraphrase)that most don't know what the undercarriage should look like to be 50%. The best judge of track ware is with measurements between 5 pins. I have searched for the site that has all the specs but am unable to recall it. I'm sure someone here will provide it for you. If your purpose for acquisition is for a short term project, then what is there might serve you well. Good luck.
The measurement is over 5 pins (4 links) centre to centre with the track stretched, I'm not even looking at that, just the pin boss to roller flange clearance underneath, if you put any measurements on here, I still have my CTS book to translate them into wear percentage.
All D8H direct drive machines used the six speed gearbox, the first power shift ones had a diesel torque, but there were only about 83 made in the UK and about 630 in the US (OM may tell me if I am a few out) before they went to oil torque converter. Production of the D8H started in 1958 and finished around 1973 when they built the D8K.
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