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Cel
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Hi all
I started a thread on the old BB about our D8 restoration which I will continue here. Today we re-installed the engine and radiator, and hope to start her soon! The pony has already been started.

Can anyone tell me what oil I should use in the oil clutch? I have ordered an instruction manual but it hasn't arrived yet.
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Marcel
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Wed, Dec 27, 2006 2:33 AM
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Cel, interesting photos. It will be a good tractor when you get it done. GWH
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Wed, Dec 27, 2006 5:28 AM
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Cel, interesting photos. It will be a good tractor when you get it done. GWH
Progress looks great.
Oil clutch uses same oil as engine. 30wt was the recommended oil above freezing.
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Wed, Dec 27, 2006 10:43 AM
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Progress looks great.
Oil clutch uses same oil as engine. 30wt was the recommended oil above freezing.
That's going to be a fine D8, good luck on the start up. Keep us posted.😎 Don
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Wed, Dec 27, 2006 9:44 PM
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That's going to be a fine D8, good luck on the start up. Keep us posted.😎 Don
Great Pics. Good luck on the 2u. They were a workhorse and moved Mountains and Mountains of material. Well engineered and were real workhorses. Look forward for further update pics.
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Thu, Dec 28, 2006 10:03 AM
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Great Pics. Good luck on the 2u. They were a workhorse and moved Mountains and Mountains of material. Well engineered and were real workhorses. Look forward for further update pics.
SeaBee Mal
Thanks for the comments! Does anyone know where I can find the stamped 'Caterpillar' and 'D8' signs that are mounted on the side of the nose? Would like to fix those as the 'cherry on the cake' when finished.

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Marcel
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Fri, Dec 29, 2006 3:15 AM
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Reply to Cel:
Thanks for the comments! Does anyone know where I can find the stamped 'Caterpillar' and 'D8' signs that are mounted on the side of the nose? Would like to fix those as the 'cherry on the cake' when finished.

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Marcel
hello ,nice looking d8 ,keep the pic coming ,this site below has the pressed plate for sale ,bruce oz

http://www.tpaktopc.net/cat.htm
$20 A PAIR FROM D2 -D8
[img]http://www.tpaktopc.net/images/plates/d7%20tin_small.jpg[/img]
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hello ,nice looking d8 ,keep the pic coming ,this site below has the pressed plate for sale ,bruce oz

http://www.tpaktopc.net/cat.htm
$20 A PAIR FROM D2 -D8
[img]http://www.tpaktopc.net/images/plates/d7%20tin_small.jpg[/img]
Cel, ACMOC has only offered the D2 tags, I think. You might find good originals at a salvage yard. I wonder if Cat still has them (Nawwww...). GWH
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Fri, Dec 29, 2006 3:57 AM
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Cel, ACMOC has only offered the D2 tags, I think. You might find good originals at a salvage yard. I wonder if Cat still has them (Nawwww...). GWH
Well...a rather frustrating day today. Pony started right away and ran like a swiss watch. Engaged the clutch, and the main engine spinned around very well, bleeding valve open and waiting to see all the air bleeded. Oil pressure came up, and I spotted a small leak, so shut the pony down to repair. Oil leak repaired, pony did not want to start again. Had the carb and mag off for inspection, even took them apart, could not find anything wrong. Will give it another try tomorrow. My right arm feels like it is twice as long, so I decided today that I want to have an electric pony starter. Let me know if you have one, or even parts. Pictures will follow.

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Marcel
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Sun, Feb 25, 2007 3:13 AM
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Well...a rather frustrating day today. Pony started right away and ran like a swiss watch. Engaged the clutch, and the main engine spinned around very well, bleeding valve open and waiting to see all the air bleeded. Oil pressure came up, and I spotted a small leak, so shut the pony down to repair. Oil leak repaired, pony did not want to start again. Had the carb and mag off for inspection, even took them apart, could not find anything wrong. Will give it another try tomorrow. My right arm feels like it is twice as long, so I decided today that I want to have an electric pony starter. Let me know if you have one, or even parts. Pictures will follow.

Best regards
Marcel
Those older Cats used straight 30W Series 3 Motor oil. In winter if the days are below freezing you can use 10W

Avoid using multigrade oil, (LIke 15-40), in warm weather. These machines were designed with tolerances for straight weight oil. Multi grade oile gets too thin in really hot weather. Multi grade had not been invented back then. The best oil of that type I have ever used was Cenex 518. There are other makes of course, but that is the best I've run across. This is also the oil to be run in the pony crankcase and transmission as well as the main back bevel gear case and main transmission. High grade Series 3 oil in all compartments except the final drives is what Cat recomended. 80-90W for the finals

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Chris
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Mon, Feb 26, 2007 10:48 AM
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Those older Cats used straight 30W Series 3 Motor oil. In winter if the days are below freezing you can use 10W

Avoid using multigrade oil, (LIke 15-40), in warm weather. These machines were designed with tolerances for straight weight oil. Multi grade oile gets too thin in really hot weather. Multi grade had not been invented back then. The best oil of that type I have ever used was Cenex 518. There are other makes of course, but that is the best I've run across. This is also the oil to be run in the pony crankcase and transmission as well as the main back bevel gear case and main transmission. High grade Series 3 oil in all compartments except the final drives is what Cat recomended. 80-90W for the finals

Hope this helps

Chris
Make sure the plugs are good in the pony. Use Champion UD16 or hotter. Cross it to Autolite or AC for better plugs. I prefer AC

These old birds can be very tempremental, usually because the compression is lower because of wear. Try giving the pony air cleaner just a breath of Starting Fluid before or during cranking. Be quick on the trigger......just a VERY small amount.

Make sure the plug wires are good. New plug wires and new plugs every other year should be considered.

Be very careful with Mag cover and make sure the gasket is in one piece and in good shape. The tiniest bit of moisture will keep you cranking with no luck of starting it. Also inspect the inside of the cap for cracks. If there is ANY moisture on the inside of the cap, it won't start.

Make sure there is no crap in the line between the sediment bulb and the carb. If you're acumulating rust, take off the pony gas tank and put some nuts and washers into it and shake it to clean it. That will loosen any rust acumulated over time if the Cat has been sitting. Then flush it with solvent or gas several times and drain acumulated rust.

Hope this helps also

Chris
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