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D7F dozer 3306 low fuel pressure

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Raeme
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Hi. I am having some problems with my Fuel pressure reading. 3306 in a D7F. I had a bad batch of fuel come in. I noticed real low fuel pressure on the gauge where normally it’s always in the green. Replaced significantly dirty screen in the primary and also the secondary filter. Pressure came back to about half way. I pulled the transfer pump, the secondary and primary fuel housings etc, only thing left on the engine was the main sleeve metering pump, cleaned significant rubbish out of every thing, still the same, replaced the hand primer pump. Now at 3/4 on the gauge. Still in the red. Replaced complete transfer pump. Still in the red. Changed the fuel pressure gauge. Still 3/4. I have no more parts to change out, no more areas to clean?? Can anyone please tell me what I am missing?? Thanks
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Fri, Nov 5, 2021 5:11 PM
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I've had the lines get blocked with debris (rocks, sticks, rust, GUNK) one in the pickup tube in the tank. mostly at tight bends and at connections..
Good luck
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Fri, Nov 5, 2021 9:14 PM
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I've had the lines get blocked with debris (rocks, sticks, rust, GUNK) one in the pickup tube in the tank. mostly at tight bends and at connections..
Good luck
There is a screen as part of the shut off valve/line assembly at the tank. Did you check that?
Is the tank vent (part of the cap) clear?
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Fri, Nov 5, 2021 10:49 PM
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There is a screen as part of the shut off valve/line assembly at the tank. Did you check that?
Is the tank vent (part of the cap) clear?
Thanks for the replies. I’m pretty comfortable there is no more rubbish in any of the housing, lines etc.I cleaned them then compressed air through everything. I wondered about a dirty fuel tank cap. So while I was doing all this I took the cap off. I haven’t cleaned any screen at the tank fuel tap no. Makes sense there is one there... might look at it next. What I did do was run the main large fuel line from tank to primary filter into a bucket and checked flow. Running a full line and lots of it. With no engine running the gravity head pressure is quite good. It will push a stream of fuel out of the fuel pressure gauge port.
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Sat, Nov 6, 2021 3:33 AM
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Reply to Raeme:
Thanks for the replies. I’m pretty comfortable there is no more rubbish in any of the housing, lines etc.I cleaned them then compressed air through everything. I wondered about a dirty fuel tank cap. So while I was doing all this I took the cap off. I haven’t cleaned any screen at the tank fuel tap no. Makes sense there is one there... might look at it next. What I did do was run the main large fuel line from tank to primary filter into a bucket and checked flow. Running a full line and lots of it. With no engine running the gravity head pressure is quite good. It will push a stream of fuel out of the fuel pressure gauge port.
On the sleeve metering pump there is a bypass valve under the cover (lower bottom RH) that keeps the pressure of the feed in the housing at a maximum of 25-32 psi. Fuel which goes through the bypass valve mixes with the fuel flow from the tank and back to the transfer pump and into the housing. Check to see if this valve is functioning and not held open by trash or malfunction.
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Sat, Nov 6, 2021 7:08 AM
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On the sleeve metering pump there is a bypass valve under the cover (lower bottom RH) that keeps the pressure of the feed in the housing at a maximum of 25-32 psi. Fuel which goes through the bypass valve mixes with the fuel flow from the tank and back to the transfer pump and into the housing. Check to see if this valve is functioning and not held open by trash or malfunction.
Hi, Thank you. I’ve looked at the pump prior everywhere I could. I had read in the manual that my transfer pump didn’t have a check valve and the main pump did. When I had everything off bar the main pump I couldn’t see anywhere this valve could be. Do you have a picture of where this plate is please? Thanks
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Sat, Nov 6, 2021 8:35 AM
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Hi, Thank you. I’ve looked at the pump prior everywhere I could. I had read in the manual that my transfer pump didn’t have a check valve and the main pump did. When I had everything off bar the main pump I couldn’t see anywhere this valve could be. Do you have a picture of where this plate is please? Thanks
#4 is the fuel pressure relief valve
#3 is the transfer pump check valve.
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Sat, Nov 6, 2021 9:29 AM
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#4 is the fuel pressure relief valve
#3 is the transfer pump check valve.
 [attachment=65251]Transfer pump check valve and Pressure Relief valve.jpg[/attachment]
 
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Hi thanks for that. Interesting to see, that’s not my pump? I don’t have those access plates on mine? Is there a different pump on these?
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Sat, Nov 6, 2021 9:35 AM
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Hi RAEME,
you have what is known as a Compact pump on your D7F engine.
I would now check the fuel flow from your tank to the primary fuel filter to rule out any blockage in the tank tap screen if fitted, and the fuel supply lines and fittings down to your primary filter.
If you indeed have a good supply flow by gravity then maybe it is your gauge that is faulty.
The specification for the fuel pressure is in the region of 25 PSI to 32 PSI at high idle.
Cheers,
Eddie B.
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Sat, Nov 6, 2021 10:00 AM
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Hi RAEME,
you have what is known as a Compact pump on your D7F engine.
I would now check the fuel flow from your tank to the primary fuel filter to rule out any blockage in the tank tap screen if fitted, and the fuel supply lines and fittings down to your primary filter.
If you indeed have a good supply flow by gravity then maybe it is your gauge that is faulty.
The specification for the fuel pressure is in the region of 25 PSI to 32 PSI at high idle.
Cheers,
Eddie B.
Hi Mate. Thank you for that. I’ll drain the tank this arv an pull the tap. Maybe what I’m seeing as “ good flow” could actually be better. Why did they fit this compact pump do we know? Cheers
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Sat, Nov 6, 2021 11:10 AM
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