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hello, can anyone tell me the correct width of the grouser plate for a D7e 47a1760 & the height or thickness of the plate when new.There is about 35mm on there now & i think the plates are 22" How much is grouser bar?
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Sat, Aug 25, 2012 12:22 PM
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My books say 20 inches for the width sorry can't help with the rest. I have used 1/2 square bar welded on to build up the grousers,cheap and easy to get but not as nice as the proper shaped bar. Did the job when I was a very young lad during school holidays on our D2, none have fallen of yet and I could weld quite well by the time I had finished.
If you are doing the weld on trick remember it is important to have the earth clamp on the track plate you are welding on to minimise stray sparks that can ruin a bearing. Same goes for any welding on machinery keep the current path through the machine as short as possible. At your peril on modern gear with sensative electronics.
cheers WF
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Sat, Aug 25, 2012 5:43 PM
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My books say 20 inches for the width sorry can't help with the rest. I have used 1/2 square bar welded on to build up the grousers,cheap and easy to get but not as nice as the proper shaped bar. Did the job when I was a very young lad during school holidays on our D2, none have fallen of yet and I could weld quite well by the time I had finished.
If you are doing the weld on trick remember it is important to have the earth clamp on the track plate you are welding on to minimise stray sparks that can ruin a bearing. Same goes for any welding on machinery keep the current path through the machine as short as possible. At your peril on modern gear with sensative electronics.
cheers WF
Base grouser shoe width is 20 in.
New grouser height 2.81 in, 100% worn @ 1.0 in (moderate service)
New plate thickness 0.59 in.
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Sat, Aug 25, 2012 11:00 PM
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Base grouser shoe width is 20 in.
New grouser height 2.81 in, 100% worn @ 1.0 in (moderate service)
New plate thickness 0.59 in.
You can buy Proper Grouser bar for almost anything . Ring a track shop or ring Tilly's in Toowoomba Qld 07-46336000 . Not cheap I priced bar for a Cat 10 a while ago , Think it was about $7 a foot. . Want a good sized welder for Bigger bar , Probably run 6 or 8 guage LH 70 rods. Good luck LJ
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Sun, Aug 26, 2012 12:05 AM
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You can buy Proper Grouser bar for almost anything . Ring a track shop or ring Tilly's in Toowoomba Qld 07-46336000 . Not cheap I priced bar for a Cat 10 a while ago , Think it was about $7 a foot. . Want a good sized welder for Bigger bar , Probably run 6 or 8 guage LH 70 rods. Good luck LJ
Thank you for that info. I couldn't find the thickness any where on the web. Even at $7 a foot it would cost about $1300 which is a lot better than $5500 for new ones. there is a unimig welder where i work so i would use that. A bit under 300 feet of welding would equate to about 1 coil of wire & 1 bottle of argon. Can the bar be bent with a sledgehammer where the old plates are rounded(at the sides) or do i have to fill that gap with the welder?
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Sun, Aug 26, 2012 6:46 AM
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Thank you for that info. I couldn't find the thickness any where on the web. Even at $7 a foot it would cost about $1300 which is a lot better than $5500 for new ones. there is a unimig welder where i work so i would use that. A bit under 300 feet of welding would equate to about 1 coil of wire & 1 bottle of argon. Can the bar be bent with a sledgehammer where the old plates are rounded(at the sides) or do i have to fill that gap with the welder?
Check out this web site, including instructions.....ends should be built up.

http://www.dura-tuff.com/grouserbars.asp
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Sun, Aug 26, 2012 7:08 AM
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Check out this web site, including instructions.....ends should be built up.

http://www.dura-tuff.com/grouserbars.asp
Hi Au7edd.
Wairyeratt, M8? Oz is a pretty big paddock. Quite a few companies that supply ground engaging tools, cutting edges, teeth, ripper boots, etc., also supply grouser bar stock. This comes in a bewildering range of shapes and sizes and you simply select the one that appears to most suit your needs, given your machine make and model, track equipment fitted and the existing wear of same. Given your estimated current grouser height of 35 mm, you're still over half of the original grouser height, which raises the question, is it really worth re-building them just yet? Unless you are doing a lot of heavy drawbar work or dozing in softer ground.

If you look up cutting edge and teeth suppliers near you or in your nearest city, wunna them ought to be able help you acquire what you need - - - for a 'small' fee, of course.

I live about 1/2-way between Brisbane and the Gold Coast and can give you contact details for a couple of suppliers around here if that is any help to you.

Catchyalater.

You have a wonderful day. Best wishes. Deas Plant.

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Sun, Aug 26, 2012 8:21 AM
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Hi Au7edd.
Wairyeratt, M8? Oz is a pretty big paddock. Quite a few companies that supply ground engaging tools, cutting edges, teeth, ripper boots, etc., also supply grouser bar stock. This comes in a bewildering range of shapes and sizes and you simply select the one that appears to most suit your needs, given your machine make and model, track equipment fitted and the existing wear of same. Given your estimated current grouser height of 35 mm, you're still over half of the original grouser height, which raises the question, is it really worth re-building them just yet? Unless you are doing a lot of heavy drawbar work or dozing in softer ground.

If you look up cutting edge and teeth suppliers near you or in your nearest city, wunna them ought to be able help you acquire what you need - - - for a 'small' fee, of course.

I live about 1/2-way between Brisbane and the Gold Coast and can give you contact details for a couple of suppliers around here if that is any help to you.

Catchyalater.
I welded up the grousers on my D6 a couple of years ago. The local track shop had 10' sticks of bar in various sizes. I pulled the track plates off to do mine so I bought a new track plate bolts too. (Otherwise I would have had to work in the cold on a dirt floor)
(12) 10' sticks grouser bar: $359
(280) bolts & nuts $299

My grousers were worn to a pretty good curve too so I clamped a guide to the plates and trimmed them straight with a torch. I mounted them to an engine stand to make it easy to position them for welding.
I (2)pass wire welded them using ER70S6 and haven't had any trouble with them. I did space the grouser off the plate about 1/16" as recommended in some of the literature I've read.
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Sun, Aug 26, 2012 9:53 PM
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I welded up the grousers on my D6 a couple of years ago. The local track shop had 10' sticks of bar in various sizes. I pulled the track plates off to do mine so I bought a new track plate bolts too. (Otherwise I would have had to work in the cold on a dirt floor)
(12) 10' sticks grouser bar: $359
(280) bolts & nuts $299

My grousers were worn to a pretty good curve too so I clamped a guide to the plates and trimmed them straight with a torch. I mounted them to an engine stand to make it easy to position them for welding.
I (2)pass wire welded them using ER70S6 and haven't had any trouble with them. I did space the grouser off the plate about 1/16" as recommended in some of the literature I've read.
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If after you think about what Deas said and you still want to build them up, you might want to look around for a track shop. They'll cut the your grousers down to about 1" which may eliminate the wear on the edges. Most shops weld both sides at the same time, off the tractor, single pass each side. They buy the grouser stock at a discount. Sometimes they pass that discount on which reduces your welding cost leaving you wondering if its better to hire them to do the job.
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Sun, Aug 26, 2012 10:54 PM
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If after you think about what Deas said and you still want to build them up, you might want to look around for a track shop. They'll cut the your grousers down to about 1" which may eliminate the wear on the edges. Most shops weld both sides at the same time, off the tractor, single pass each side. They buy the grouser stock at a discount. Sometimes they pass that discount on which reduces your welding cost leaving you wondering if its better to hire them to do the job.
Hi, Aud7edd.
D6C10K and Mike Walsh have raised a point without actually mentioning the point specifically. If you have the old dry tracks, you can weld them on the machine. If you happen to have SALT - sealed and lubricated track - pins and bushes, you DO need to remove the plates from the chains to weld or you for sure cook the seals around the track pins and bushes. SALT track is pretty easy to identify 'cos each pin has a small rubber lug in the end where the lubricant is added - - - and check both ends of the pins 'cos sometimes the plugs can finish up on the inside of the track.

Hope this helps.

You have a wonderful day. Best wishes. Deas Plant.

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