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Willowhic
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About 8yrs ago my buddy drove his new-to-him D7E (47A886) from his Grandpa's house to his shop-approx 100yards. In that time the engine had lost about a gallon of oil...but the oil clutch miraculously gained the same amount! His Grandpa had worked at Caterpillar in Peoria in the 50s and 60s and had since worked on and sold heavy equipment for a living. I bought my D9 and 980 from him. He and I had become fast friends irrespective of the difference in our ages. My buddy and his Grandpa took the engine out and disassembled it in the shop. But before very long, his Grandpa became ill and was hospitalized...tragically, he passed away suddenly in the hospital. The d339 sat there in his shop-the last of hundreds of engines he had worked on...

My buddy kept plans to rebuild it-he got new pistons, liners, rings, pins, bearings, and some other necessities, but life pulled him in different directions and he decided to sell the whole machine where it sat. He called me this past January and made me an offer-which I eventually took.

I hauled the engine home in 7 pallet loads, the rest of the machinewould arrive in several more trailer loads:lift cyl assy, dash, hood, floors, spare transmission, spare final housings, gears, push frames, dead axle, cab, and the machine itself. Well, the first thing I did was consult ACMOC and order manuals from ebay. The day I got the engine home, I reinstalled the cam-things seemed to be going well so far! [attachment=31687]20150308_173036.jpg[/attachment][attachment=31688]20150308_215034.jpg[/attachment][attachment=31689]20150326_211900.jpg[/attachment][attachment=31690]20150423_132652.jpg[/attachment][attachment=31691]20150426_002433.jpg[/attachment][attachment=31692]20150426_002516.jpg[/attachment][attachment=31693]20150530_190934.jpg[/attachment][attachment=31694]20150530_191057.jpg[/attachment][attachment=31695]20150620_180910.jpg[/attachment]

The crank measured 0.025" under-but the mains were within spec. What wasn't in spec was the rear main seal-it was std. and never even touched the crank! I got the part number for the correct undersized seal from the book and had one sent to me from American Crane (GREAT source btw). You can see the difference in the first pic between the std seal (block side) and the undersized seal (main side). Some of the pucs loaded upside down.

The engine had been rebuilt some time before it entered my buddy's posession. When I went to install the rods, I found that the old rod bearings were also std!!! and on 0.025" under rod journals!!!! Another potential disaster averted 😊 As the engine came together, I ordered more parts, gaskets, seals, and bearings from American Crane...and had to make some parts of my own. I didn't count the hours, but some nights I worked until 4am (second wind or something...) and was encouraged when each major piece was sealed in place.

Well, the engine reassembly continued and by June of this year I had it running! MAN it sounds good!!! I told my buddy about it and he was quite pleased. I can't help but think that his Grandpa, my great friend Neal, would be pleased too.

Thanks to all who contributed info about D7Es, D339s, and the like in past posts-it was invaluable help to me starting out on this project.
Thanks for reading! 😊
-nate
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1988 JCB 1400B backhoe
1966 Cat D9 cable dozer
1966 Cat 980 wheel loader
1967 Galion 140 grader
1963 Cat D7E hydraulic dozer 47A886
196? Cat 112 grader 3U3308 (engine: 3U243)
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Sat, Oct 17, 2015 9:38 AM
Willowhic
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Pics 7,8,& 9 are upside down. I assembled the engine on its side (left/pony/starter side down, right/fuel injection pump side up). Pic 7 just shows the oil pan and front cover in place-but in order to get this far, all the rotating assembly guts, oil pump, balancers, gears, gaskets, and goo had to be in place-including the PTO shaft and its new rear support bearing
Pic 8 shows all the front cover accessories in place, new front crank seal(and speedy sleeve)...also had to recut the threads in the crank and turn down a socket so it would fit down in the front pulley.
Pic 9 is one I took when I used my wrecker to right the side-lying d339.

Sorry about the pics being upside down-first time loading them.
1988 JCB 1400B backhoe
1966 Cat D9 cable dozer
1966 Cat 980 wheel loader
1967 Galion 140 grader
1963 Cat D7E hydraulic dozer 47A886
196? Cat 112 grader 3U3308 (engine: 3U243)
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Sat, Oct 17, 2015 10:29 AM
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Pics 7,8,& 9 are upside down. I assembled the engine on its side (left/pony/starter side down, right/fuel injection pump side up). Pic 7 just shows the oil pan and front cover in place-but in order to get this far, all the rotating assembly guts, oil pump, balancers, gears, gaskets, and goo had to be in place-including the PTO shaft and its new rear support bearing
Pic 8 shows all the front cover accessories in place, new front crank seal(and speedy sleeve)...also had to recut the threads in the crank and turn down a socket so it would fit down in the front pulley.
Pic 9 is one I took when I used my wrecker to right the side-lying d339.

Sorry about the pics being upside down-first time loading them.
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Thanks for posting the pics and story. I think Neal is smiling.
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Thanks for posting the pics and story. I think Neal is smiling.
Is that engine a later serial number? 886 would have the one piece oil pan. Your 2 piece is vastly more desirable.

Ask me how I know!!!
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Sat, Oct 17, 2015 10:46 PM
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Is that engine a later serial number? 886 would have the one piece oil pan. Your 2 piece is vastly more desirable.

Ask me how I know!!!
cab is correct, the two-piece oil pan was not introduced until 47A1654. The pan in the photo could have been added as an upgrade? I did notice that it appears that the pan was removed/installed as a one-piece. Nice observation cab.
Thanks again Nate,
Craig
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Sun, Oct 18, 2015 3:19 AM
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cab is correct, the two-piece oil pan was not introduced until 47A1654. The pan in the photo could have been added as an upgrade? I did notice that it appears that the pan was removed/installed as a one-piece. Nice observation cab.
Thanks again Nate,
Craig
Thanks fir the kind words Craig-the loss of Neal was a shock to the whole family as well as to me. Nice to know that in some ways his legacy lives on.

I don't have much history on this machine, but at some point in the past the engine had been 3/4ths rebuilt-during my reassembly, it was clear that they didn't bother replacing #4 piston and liner because that involves removing the engine from the machine, which isn't that bad...IF you have a crane!!! =) Also, I believe the engine is NOT original to the 47A886 dozer because this engine has many of the changes beginning with mid-to-later sn diagrams in the parts book.
But interesting that you should pick up on the 2-piece oil pan! That sucker was a fiasco in itself: i cleaned up the inside of the pan & the gasket surfaces, and installed the pan one night...it had been a long day and I didn't think much of the solder covering the area under #1 piston. I was happy to get that heavy pan in place and called it a day...but when I looked closely at it in the next day's morning light I saw a LARGE patch on the forward section that was wet with residual oil-bad leak from when it was last used. I cleaned off the grime with a wire wheel and saw a full-width patch: 3/16" thick plate nicely contoured to the pan, sealed with hard putty, and perimeter bolted to the front pan section. (This patched pan is the one in the pics-the patch is nearly indiscernable on the exterior with the layer of crud accumulated by the leak.) Even though I had inspected the inside surfaces of the pan carefully for any breach of integrity, the wet edges of that patch convinced me that I needed a replacement pan. Fortunately, one of Neal's partners was still in the loop and I was referred to someone who had some spare D7E parts. A deal was struck and for$400 I brought home the front section of a D7E pan that had been nicely brazed along some cracks caused by freezing water. I cleaned this pan with extra care inside and out-i even soaked the brazed areas in carb cleaner to ensure those cracks were sealed! I installed this newer pan front section with red gorilla and it's working just fine-no leaks to date.
The patch on the 1st pan was explained after I got the engine vertical:there was another patch on the block alongside #1! Seems like this engine had thrown #1's rod destroying the oil pan and cracking the pony side of the block in the process...also, the date stamp on the #1-2 cyl head was from 1997; #3-4 head was the original 1963.

Thanks also to d9gdon for correcting the upside down pics!! =)
-nate
1988 JCB 1400B backhoe
1966 Cat D9 cable dozer
1966 Cat 980 wheel loader
1967 Galion 140 grader
1963 Cat D7E hydraulic dozer 47A886
196? Cat 112 grader 3U3308 (engine: 3U243)
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Sun, Oct 18, 2015 9:50 AM
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Is that engine a later serial number? 886 would have the one piece oil pan. Your 2 piece is vastly more desirable.

Ask me how I know!!!
[quote="cab"]Is that engine a later serial number? 886 would have the one piece oil pan. Your 2 piece is vastly more desirable.

Ask me how I know!!![/quote]

You're correct, cab; that early a sn would've had the one piece pan...you're also correct that it IS vastly more desireable!!!

When I got the new-to-me pan, i noticed the rear section directly communicated oil with the flywheel housing. Is this unique to powershift 48A's?
1988 JCB 1400B backhoe
1966 Cat D9 cable dozer
1966 Cat 980 wheel loader
1967 Galion 140 grader
1963 Cat D7E hydraulic dozer 47A886
196? Cat 112 grader 3U3308 (engine: 3U243)
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Sun, Oct 18, 2015 10:01 AM
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Reply to Willowhic:
[quote="cab"]Is that engine a later serial number? 886 would have the one piece oil pan. Your 2 piece is vastly more desirable.

Ask me how I know!!![/quote]

You're correct, cab; that early a sn would've had the one piece pan...you're also correct that it IS vastly more desireable!!!

When I got the new-to-me pan, i noticed the rear section directly communicated oil with the flywheel housing. Is this unique to powershift 48A's?
The engine oil should not communicate with flywheel housing oil on your tractor. The rear of the pan seals against the front of flywheel housing, but the two sumps are distinct and separate.

I am not familiar with powershift, but imagine engine oil is separate in them as well.
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Mon, Oct 19, 2015 6:53 AM
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The engine oil should not communicate with flywheel housing oil on your tractor. The rear of the pan seals against the front of flywheel housing, but the two sumps are distinct and separate.

I am not familiar with powershift, but imagine engine oil is separate in them as well.
Thanks for the reply, Cab; and my apologies for not clarifying-i should proofread! I just reread my last post and am embarrassed.
Here's the behind story:
The gentleman who sold me the oil pan had several other d7e engines and parts lying about-some of which had come from military machines, which I understand to be powershifts. He showed me several pans, but some of the sections of these pans had a trapezoidal relief of approximately 3" deep x 7" wide directly under where the rear main sits in the block. I didn't need the rear section of the pan I purchased, partially because mine was good and partially because it looked different than mine in this rear main area, so I left it with him.
My engine's rear section doesn't communicate with the flywheel housing...if it did, I wouldn't have bothered with the new seal in the rear main-more significantly, when my buddy drove it that 1st 100yds the oil levels in both the engine and the oil clutch would have remained fairly constant--and as an end result- I wouldn't own it now...I don't know why those rear sections had that relief cut, unless it has something to do with the powershift?

Thanks Cab! 😊
1988 JCB 1400B backhoe
1966 Cat D9 cable dozer
1966 Cat 980 wheel loader
1967 Galion 140 grader
1963 Cat D7E hydraulic dozer 47A886
196? Cat 112 grader 3U3308 (engine: 3U243)
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Mon, Oct 19, 2015 10:53 AM
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Thanks for the reply, Cab; and my apologies for not clarifying-i should proofread! I just reread my last post and am embarrassed.
Here's the behind story:
The gentleman who sold me the oil pan had several other d7e engines and parts lying about-some of which had come from military machines, which I understand to be powershifts. He showed me several pans, but some of the sections of these pans had a trapezoidal relief of approximately 3" deep x 7" wide directly under where the rear main sits in the block. I didn't need the rear section of the pan I purchased, partially because mine was good and partially because it looked different than mine in this rear main area, so I left it with him.
My engine's rear section doesn't communicate with the flywheel housing...if it did, I wouldn't have bothered with the new seal in the rear main-more significantly, when my buddy drove it that 1st 100yds the oil levels in both the engine and the oil clutch would have remained fairly constant--and as an end result- I wouldn't own it now...I don't know why those rear sections had that relief cut, unless it has something to do with the powershift?

Thanks Cab! 😊
Both the DD and powershift use the same 9M4001 & 9M8897 two piece oil pan.

Got to looking at later s/n parts diagrams and the small pan section changed again at s/n 48A6883 and 47A3678. New part number that replaced the 9M4001 is now 4S7513. Nothing to indicate that there would be any fluid connection between flywheel housing and engine oil pan.

Might be different connection on some industrial engine configurations?
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Mon, Oct 19, 2015 11:59 AM
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