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My d7 3t is stuck in second gear. Can take shifter out and move rail back to center,install shifter works for short period then hangs up again. As far as I can tell th e ball on the shifter looks good. please help . Thanks in advance
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Thu, Nov 8, 2012 8:13 AM
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When you say it's stuck, do you mean the stick goes to neutral and leaves the shift gate/rail behind?

If that's the case, something is worn. I have never had much luck building up on the end of a stick and have it last. Just doesn't seem to be hard enough using regular welding rods like 7018. Something that doesn't get a lot of use, might be fine, but in trucks, we soon ended up with a new stick.

If the stick and shifter rail won't come out of 2nd (the stick stays in the shifter gate like it's supposed to) then adjust the interlock system that links to the main clutch. The pin can sometimes fall out of the forks or just wear in all the pivots and pins can cause it to get out of adjustment. The lock should not release until the clutch pops out. To check, push on the shifter stick to put it in neutral while you're going along, At the same time move the clutch forward, transmission lock should not release and allow the shifter to go to neutral before clutch pops out.
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Thu, Nov 8, 2012 8:05 PM
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Reply to ccjersey:
When you say it's stuck, do you mean the stick goes to neutral and leaves the shift gate/rail behind?

If that's the case, something is worn. I have never had much luck building up on the end of a stick and have it last. Just doesn't seem to be hard enough using regular welding rods like 7018. Something that doesn't get a lot of use, might be fine, but in trucks, we soon ended up with a new stick.

If the stick and shifter rail won't come out of 2nd (the stick stays in the shifter gate like it's supposed to) then adjust the interlock system that links to the main clutch. The pin can sometimes fall out of the forks or just wear in all the pivots and pins can cause it to get out of adjustment. The lock should not release until the clutch pops out. To check, push on the shifter stick to put it in neutral while you're going along, At the same time move the clutch forward, transmission lock should not release and allow the shifter to go to neutral before clutch pops out.
i had one that wouldn't shift right. turned out bushings in clutch houseing were so wore-out interlock couldn't work. no adjusting helped. to much slack.
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Thu, Nov 8, 2012 9:33 PM
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i had one that wouldn't shift right. turned out bushings in clutch houseing were so wore-out interlock couldn't work. no adjusting helped. to much slack.
If the interlock mechanism is out of adjustment you won't be able to shift any gears.

Seems more like a problem with the shift rail detent plungers, either worn, stuck or broken springs which is allowing more than one shift fork to move during a shift. Requires removal of the covers (2) down on the side of the transmission to get access.
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Fri, Nov 9, 2012 10:55 PM
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If the interlock mechanism is out of adjustment you won't be able to shift any gears.

Seems more like a problem with the shift rail detent plungers, either worn, stuck or broken springs which is allowing more than one shift fork to move during a shift. Requires removal of the covers (2) down on the side of the transmission to get access.
I had a chance to fool with shifter today. Interlock seems to be fine, ran machine for 1 hour everything good then stuck in second. Ran a little longer tried to shift ,worked fine. If u grab shifter while sitting still it seems to be able to rotate a little bit. How much is normal?
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Sat, Nov 10, 2012 8:41 AM
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OK, so stick and transmission both stay in second, you just can't move it to neutral?
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Sat, Nov 10, 2012 8:50 AM
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OK, so stick and transmission both stay in second, you just can't move it to neutral?
Correct,the trans and tractor work perfect just sometimes main stick will not shift at all . Stick will not move
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Sat, Nov 10, 2012 8:19 PM
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I don't think it has anything to do with the stick. Most likely the detent plungers and springs like Old Magnet said. I think they are all returned to the unlocked position by a spring, so probably the one on the second gear rail is sticking or perhaps the shift collar on the transmission shaft is worn or rusty.

Sure would be simpler if it were a detent!
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Sat, Nov 10, 2012 9:07 PM
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I don't think it has anything to do with the stick. Most likely the detent plungers and springs like Old Magnet said. I think they are all returned to the unlocked position by a spring, so probably the one on the second gear rail is sticking or perhaps the shift collar on the transmission shaft is worn or rusty.

Sure would be simpler if it were a detent!
Shifting is controlled by the stick and shift gates. Plungers are what holds the shift forks in the selected position.
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Sat, Nov 10, 2012 10:28 PM
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Shifting is controlled by the stick and shift gates. Plungers are what holds the shift forks in the selected position.
supposed to be raining here tommorrow probably wont get to use or work on .Thanks for the good info.
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Sun, Nov 11, 2012 10:01 AM
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