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D7 #24 CCU Clutch lever is stuck

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RDY2ROK
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Hello all,

I have a 1951 D7 Dozer with a front #24 CCU. The clutch lever that enters in the top of the unit is almost completely froze in place, it still moves but it takes a lot of force. Anyone know if there is an adjustment I'm missing or a good idea of what to look for before I start taking it apart? I've used this cat for years maintaining ranch roads and have adjusted the clutch many times but never the brake (which could be part of the problem) to hold the blade up.



Thanks Clint
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Wed, Jan 8, 2014 3:41 AM
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The lever is part of a 'giant screw'. It maybe needs some grease or the grease is cold and stiff or just full of dirt and grease. The threads need cleaning and lubricating.

ON my 3T D-7 with a CCU #24, I was able to operate the control lever with just a flick of the wrist with the end of the handle in the palm of my hand, up or down.
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Wed, Jan 8, 2014 4:40 AM
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Hello Clint,

I might be able to give you a few ideas. We have one on a 17a that we recently overhauled. First off, do you have the operators manual, I found one on ebay.

Take the fill plug out and check the oil level. Oil plug is on lower left side of the unit when standing in front of the tractor. Then lubricate every zerk and joint that you can access with a pump oiler.

If you can't get things free and working correctly you may be faced with going deeper inside the unit for repairs which most always will involve a lot of work. Don't forget to check the bearings on the control lever from the seat to the front of the tractor. There are ball bearing inside the castings on each end of the pipe.

Ours unit got a complete overhaul and it works really well.

If you have more questions, I can refer to the manual and try to help out.
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Wed, Jan 8, 2014 4:42 AM
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Reply to Old 3T lover:
The lever is part of a 'giant screw'. It maybe needs some grease or the grease is cold and stiff or just full of dirt and grease. The threads need cleaning and lubricating.

ON my 3T D-7 with a CCU #24, I was able to operate the control lever with just a flick of the wrist with the end of the handle in the palm of my hand, up or down.
[quote="Old 3T lover"]The lever is part of a 'giant screw'. It maybe needs some grease or the grease is cold and stiff or just full of dirt and grease. The threads need cleaning and lubricating.

ON my 3T D-7 with a CCU #24, I was able to operate the control lever with just a flick of the wrist with the end of the handle in the palm of my hand, up or down.[/quote]

Mine used to work like that also, until one day it started getting harder and harder to move so we stopped using it to find the problem. It got so stiff I had to use body weight to move the lever. I tried to find a place to lubricate but the lever just disappears into the center of the unit.
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Wed, Jan 8, 2014 6:01 AM
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Reply to Ed RD7:
Hello Clint,

I might be able to give you a few ideas. We have one on a 17a that we recently overhauled. First off, do you have the operators manual, I found one on ebay.

Take the fill plug out and check the oil level. Oil plug is on lower left side of the unit when standing in front of the tractor. Then lubricate every zerk and joint that you can access with a pump oiler.

If you can't get things free and working correctly you may be faced with going deeper inside the unit for repairs which most always will involve a lot of work. Don't forget to check the bearings on the control lever from the seat to the front of the tractor. There are ball bearing inside the castings on each end of the pipe.

Ours unit got a complete overhaul and it works really well.

If you have more questions, I can refer to the manual and try to help out.
[quote="Ed RD7"]Hello Clint,

I might be able to give you a few ideas. We have one on a 17a that we recently overhauled. First off, do you have the operators manual, I found one on ebay.

Take the fill plug out and check the oil level. Oil plug is on lower left side of the unit when standing in front of the tractor. Then lubricate every zerk and joint that you can access with a pump oiler.

If you can't get things free and working correctly you may be faced with going deeper inside the unit for repairs which most always will involve a lot of work. Don't forget to check the bearings on the control lever from the seat to the front of the tractor. There are ball bearing inside the castings on each end of the pipe.

Ours unit got a complete overhaul and it works really well.

If you have more questions, I can refer to the manual and try to help out.[/quote]

I have the installation manual and parts books. I checked all linkage up to the clutch lever that disappears in the unit and its all free. Oil level is good still looks like new probably because we did a complete service on it last year. I found three grease zerks two up high for rollers and one at the bottom that was hard to get to.

Where did you get yours refurbished?

Thanks Clint
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Wed, Jan 8, 2014 6:12 AM
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Reply to RDY2ROK:
[quote="Ed RD7"]Hello Clint,

I might be able to give you a few ideas. We have one on a 17a that we recently overhauled. First off, do you have the operators manual, I found one on ebay.

Take the fill plug out and check the oil level. Oil plug is on lower left side of the unit when standing in front of the tractor. Then lubricate every zerk and joint that you can access with a pump oiler.

If you can't get things free and working correctly you may be faced with going deeper inside the unit for repairs which most always will involve a lot of work. Don't forget to check the bearings on the control lever from the seat to the front of the tractor. There are ball bearing inside the castings on each end of the pipe.

Ours unit got a complete overhaul and it works really well.

If you have more questions, I can refer to the manual and try to help out.[/quote]

I have the installation manual and parts books. I checked all linkage up to the clutch lever that disappears in the unit and its all free. Oil level is good still looks like new probably because we did a complete service on it last year. I found three grease zerks two up high for rollers and one at the bottom that was hard to get to.

Where did you get yours refurbished?

Thanks Clint
Hi Team,
This scan may help as it shows the grease lube points.
Cheers,
Eddie B.
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Wed, Jan 8, 2014 6:33 AM
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Hi Team,
This scan may help as it shows the grease lube points.
Cheers,
Eddie B.
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[quote="edb"]Hi Team,
This scan may help as it shows the grease lube points.
Cheers,
Eddie B.[/quote]

Thanks, I'm sure we have been greasing them all accept Photo 6, (but doesn't seem to be in the same place as the photo mine is more under the unit) I didn't know it was there until after things started getting hard to move. It did take grease so I wondering if the bearing got hot ant seized.
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Wed, Jan 8, 2014 6:57 AM
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Reply to RDY2ROK:
[quote="edb"]Hi Team,
This scan may help as it shows the grease lube points.
Cheers,
Eddie B.[/quote]

Thanks, I'm sure we have been greasing them all accept Photo 6, (but doesn't seem to be in the same place as the photo mine is more under the unit) I didn't know it was there until after things started getting hard to move. It did take grease so I wondering if the bearing got hot ant seized.
You mentioned the installation manual but do you have the Maintenance and Operation Manual?
Here are the adjustment instructions
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Wed, Jan 8, 2014 7:36 AM
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You mentioned the installation manual but do you have the Maintenance and Operation Manual?
Here are the adjustment instructions
[quote="Old Magnet"]You mentioned the installation manual but do you have the Maintenance and Operation Manual?
Here are the adjustment instructions[/quote]

I do have the operations manual but the pictures are very dark and I cant tell what the numbers are pointing at.

Thanks for the info.
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Wed, Jan 8, 2014 7:44 AM
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[quote="Old Magnet"]You mentioned the installation manual but do you have the Maintenance and Operation Manual?
Here are the adjustment instructions[/quote]

I do have the operations manual but the pictures are very dark and I cant tell what the numbers are pointing at.

Thanks for the info.
Hello Clint,

Look for a zerk fitting on the front of the unit below the spool cover. This fitting leads the grease to the clutch engagement screw and bearing.
Try working some grease in there and see if that helps. There is a large wiper seal on the back side of the screw. If the seal has failed and let dirt and dust mix in with the grease then it could become stiff over time.

Hope this helps.

Do everything you can before deciding to take the unit off the tractor for repairs.

I helped EdRD7 overhaul our unit in our shop. You need a suitable lifting device like a forklift or bridge crane to remove and install.

Florin Tractor in Sacramento, California helped supply virtually all of the parts for the overhaul.
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Wed, Jan 8, 2014 8:48 AM
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Hello Clint,

Look for a zerk fitting on the front of the unit below the spool cover. This fitting leads the grease to the clutch engagement screw and bearing.
Try working some grease in there and see if that helps. There is a large wiper seal on the back side of the screw. If the seal has failed and let dirt and dust mix in with the grease then it could become stiff over time.

Hope this helps.

Do everything you can before deciding to take the unit off the tractor for repairs.

I helped EdRD7 overhaul our unit in our shop. You need a suitable lifting device like a forklift or bridge crane to remove and install.

Florin Tractor in Sacramento, California helped supply virtually all of the parts for the overhaul.
[quote="fordhook"]Hello Clint,

Look for a zerk fitting on the front of the unit below the spool cover. This fitting leads the grease to the clutch engagement screw and bearing.
Try working some grease in there and see if that helps. There is a large wiper seal on the back side of the screw. If the seal has failed and let dirt and dust mix in with the grease then it could become stiff over time.

Hope this helps.

Do everything you can before deciding to take the unit off the tractor for repairs.

I helped EdRD7 overhaul our unit in our shop. You need a suitable lifting device like a forklift or bridge crane to remove and install.

Florin Tractor in Sacramento, California helped supply virtually all of the parts for the overhaul.[/quote]

I'm with ya on trying every possible solution before removing!! I'm I on the right track that the bearing that may be sticking is not engine driven, so it shouldn't get hot right? The only force used to move the lever is elbow grease?
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Wed, Jan 8, 2014 9:18 AM
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