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I am one push rod ($60.00) away from setting the valves and I also noticed that 2 fuel injection lines coming out of the fuel pumps are weeping a little fuel at the top of the nuts. Question 1--is it best to set the engine valves hot and Idling or hot & shut off? If shut off how do I turn the engine over, it has a lot of compression? Question 2 --I haven't broken the fuel line apart yet but is there any trick to sealing them up? I assume like any fitting like this there is a life expectince but I would like to get these to seal. While waiting on the pushrod I have taken the cutting edge and endbits off one bad blade to be put on the better blade. Cat says not to save the bolts but of course I didn't listen--I found 10 broken bolts and ended up torching off the rest. Thanks
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Set the tappets with the engine shut off . use the decompresser lever to release compression while turning engine over and release to adjust . there are 3 tappets to adjust . Intake. Exhaust . Compression release . If you cant turn the engine over with the fan , put the starting engine in gear and use the hand crank to turn the engine over .
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Set the tappets with the engine shut off . use the decompresser lever to release compression while turning engine over and release to adjust . there are 3 tappets to adjust . Intake. Exhaust . Compression release . If you cant turn the engine over with the fan , put the starting engine in gear and use the hand crank to turn the engine over .
One trick to sealing fuel injection lines that has worked for me is warping the line above the tapered seat with Teflon tape. The tape is acting as a spacer to let you push just a little more with the nut.


Be genital with the nut, it is the heavy hand that has been before that has stretched it out. So a just enough thing, none of that just a little more.
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Tue, Dec 4, 2018 11:09 PM
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Reply to Ray54:
One trick to sealing fuel injection lines that has worked for me is warping the line above the tapered seat with Teflon tape. The tape is acting as a spacer to let you push just a little more with the nut.


Be genital with the nut, it is the heavy hand that has been before that has stretched it out. So a just enough thing, none of that just a little more.
some would say that you must annealed the copper washers as the copper work hardens and you will be fighting your self trying to crush a "Hard" washer . i sure someone with more knowledge on this will chine in.
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Fri, Dec 7, 2018 7:30 AM
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Further to GP's information, the steel collar and/or the seat can acquire imperfections which may be able to be mitigated with valve grinding compound. I used this approach for a couple of situations on my D2 (same concept is used for the fuel supply line from the tank but a larger diameter) but in one case, the compound wasn't enough so I replaced the socket with a new one. If you use the compound on the injector collars, I'd use a very fine paste so you don't "compound" the issue
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Sat, Dec 8, 2018 4:35 AM
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Further to GP's information, the steel collar and/or the seat can acquire imperfections which may be able to be mitigated with valve grinding compound. I used this approach for a couple of situations on my D2 (same concept is used for the fuel supply line from the tank but a larger diameter) but in one case, the compound wasn't enough so I replaced the socket with a new one. If you use the compound on the injector collars, I'd use a very fine paste so you don't "compound" the issue
Pete--do you think the hardening comes about of a rearrangement of the electrons in the D shell? perhaps creating an ion or the molecule Cu2 ??
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Sat, Dec 8, 2018 5:41 AM
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Ya know---it sounded real good to me too! I was fascinated by quantum mechanics in college, but could never master it!!
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Sat, Dec 8, 2018 7:26 AM
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Ya know---it sounded real good to me too! I was fascinated by quantum mechanics in college, but could never master it!!
I appreciate all your input--The nuts are very tight--I just bought a set of brake line wrenches and with a hammer broke the nuts loose. Tomorrow I will look at getting the lines off the machine and if no cracks I might try the valve grinding compound, that sounds like it could work. My push rod is in at Cat, but now I ordered a set of nozzles so I may not get it running for another week. The engine could start better and I figure its cheaper to replace nozzle than have someone test them. My last question is--How far can I go down this rabbit hole?? Thanks
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Sat, Dec 8, 2018 10:28 AM
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Further to GP's information, the steel collar and/or the seat can acquire imperfections which may be able to be mitigated with valve grinding compound. I used this approach for a couple of situations on my D2 (same concept is used for the fuel supply line from the tank but a larger diameter) but in one case, the compound wasn't enough so I replaced the socket with a new one. If you use the compound on the injector collars, I'd use a very fine paste so you don't "compound" the issue


Neil,

You best be careful! Someone may get names mixed up after reading "Dummy, don't you know to anneal those things?" and hang you on a coathanger! But right now up there in New York State, maybe the follow-on torch process might feel good! 😊 It would definitely re-arrange your molecules (and a few other things).

JanM
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Sun, Dec 9, 2018 12:53 AM
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I appreciate all your input--The nuts are very tight--I just bought a set of brake line wrenches and with a hammer broke the nuts loose. Tomorrow I will look at getting the lines off the machine and if no cracks I might try the valve grinding compound, that sounds like it could work. My push rod is in at Cat, but now I ordered a set of nozzles so I may not get it running for another week. The engine could start better and I figure its cheaper to replace nozzle than have someone test them. My last question is--How far can I go down this rabbit hole?? Thanks

Judging by my experience with the 5U, the answer is "all the way"....
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Sun, Dec 9, 2018 4:27 AM
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Judging by my experience with the 5U, the answer is "all the way"....
Hi Jan, it's not too bad actually, a very pleasant 32 with sunny skies, a couple of inches on the ground, my ideal winter's day. Did some sledding with my son - it's all good.
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