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There is a D6C 10K series tractor at work. Last night the mechanic did a service on it. I pulled the tractor out of the shop this morning and noticed that the left track was loose as a goose. Come to find out the mechanic tried to grease the hydaulic track adjuster like a bearing!! Now the front idler is backed clear off and when you try to put grease in the adjuster it flows out of a hole in the front. Doubled cheked the valve and it is closed. Is it possible something inside the adjuster is blown out from over pressure? Any ideas would be appreciated. Bill
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Thu, Dec 22, 2016 3:49 AM
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Hi, Steamdrum1.
That sure sounds like a blown seal to me. Did that mechanic get his certification off the back of a Kelloggs packet? Did he not notice the track getting tighter as he pumped grease into it? If he is a genuine certified heavy equipment fitter for earth moving equipment, why didn't he know about that?

A kew-ree-yuss mind would like to know.

Just my 0.02.
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Thu, Dec 22, 2016 4:42 AM
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Hi, Steamdrum1.
That sure sounds like a blown seal to me. Did that mechanic get his certification off the back of a Kelloggs packet? Did he not notice the track getting tighter as he pumped grease into it? If he is a genuine certified heavy equipment fitter for earth moving equipment, why didn't he know about that?

A kew-ree-yuss mind would like to know.

Just my 0.02.
My D6C 10K has never been able to hold track adjustment... I have to give them like 10 pumps each day I use it, been like that since I bought it. Maybe this is a common problem with this model?
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Thu, Dec 22, 2016 4:54 AM
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My D6C 10K has never been able to hold track adjustment... I have to give them like 10 pumps each day I use it, been like that since I bought it. Maybe this is a common problem with this model?
I was pretty disgusted to say the least. The undercarriage is like brand new on this tractor. This d6 is our construction department tractor at the Cat Decatur Plant. It only gets ran a few hours a year. The whole machine is in amazing shape!
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Thu, Dec 22, 2016 5:09 AM
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I was pretty disgusted to say the least. The undercarriage is like brand new on this tractor. This d6 is our construction department tractor at the Cat Decatur Plant. It only gets ran a few hours a year. The whole machine is in amazing shape!
What do you mean by "a hole in the front"? All hydraulic adjusters are constructed pretty much the same and in general they work well if assembled and maintained properly. Where is the adjustment sitting when the push rod is extended? Is it bottomed out?
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Thu, Dec 22, 2016 5:22 AM
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What do you mean by "a hole in the front"? All hydraulic adjusters are constructed pretty much the same and in general they work well if assembled and maintained properly. Where is the adjustment sitting when the push rod is extended? Is it bottomed out?
Hi SD1,
be aware there are two types of release valves on each adjuster cylinder.
One has the special grease nipple/zerk fitting to adjust the track by, the second is a blank bolt headed grease relief valve.
It my be this second one that is not seated.
From memory there should be two grease exit holes aligning with each valve in the back of the cylinder flange to allow manually released grease out of the adjuster system.
Cheers,
Eddie B.
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Thu, Dec 22, 2016 6:34 AM
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Hi SD1,
be aware there are two types of release valves on each adjuster cylinder.
One has the special grease nipple/zerk fitting to adjust the track by, the second is a blank bolt headed grease relief valve.
It my be this second one that is not seated.
From memory there should be two grease exit holes aligning with each valve in the back of the cylinder flange to allow manually released grease out of the adjuster system.
Cheers,
Eddie B.
Right Ed, if either valve is not tight, grease squirts back towards the recoil spring.
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Thu, Dec 22, 2016 6:38 AM
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Reply to edb:
Hi SD1,
be aware there are two types of release valves on each adjuster cylinder.
One has the special grease nipple/zerk fitting to adjust the track by, the second is a blank bolt headed grease relief valve.
It my be this second one that is not seated.
From memory there should be two grease exit holes aligning with each valve in the back of the cylinder flange to allow manually released grease out of the adjuster system.
Cheers,
Eddie B.
[quote="edb"]Hi SD1,
be aware there are two types of release valves on each adjuster cylinder.
One has the special grease nipple/zerk fitting to adjust the track by, the second is a blank bolt headed grease relief valve.
It my be this second one that is not seated.
From memory there should be two grease exit holes aligning with each valve in the back of the cylinder flange to allow manually released grease out of the adjuster system.
Cheers,
Eddie B.[/quote]

I think you're got it right there....one of the valves isn't seating. If it was a blown seal it would be leaking around the cylinder or piston. I had a new aftermarket track cylinder for my 6c that was doing the same thing....turned out they hadn't tapped the holes deep enough for the two valves and they bottomed in the thread before sealing.
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Thu, Dec 22, 2016 7:21 AM
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[quote="edb"]Hi SD1,
be aware there are two types of release valves on each adjuster cylinder.
One has the special grease nipple/zerk fitting to adjust the track by, the second is a blank bolt headed grease relief valve.
It my be this second one that is not seated.
From memory there should be two grease exit holes aligning with each valve in the back of the cylinder flange to allow manually released grease out of the adjuster system.
Cheers,
Eddie B.[/quote]

I think you're got it right there....one of the valves isn't seating. If it was a blown seal it would be leaking around the cylinder or piston. I had a new aftermarket track cylinder for my 6c that was doing the same thing....turned out they hadn't tapped the holes deep enough for the two valves and they bottomed in the thread before sealing.
Only one vent hole to the rear, that's why I'm asking about grease coming out of the "Hole in front" which would more likely indicate a blown seal.
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Thu, Dec 22, 2016 7:26 AM
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Reply to D6c10K:
[quote="edb"]Hi SD1,
be aware there are two types of release valves on each adjuster cylinder.
One has the special grease nipple/zerk fitting to adjust the track by, the second is a blank bolt headed grease relief valve.
It my be this second one that is not seated.
From memory there should be two grease exit holes aligning with each valve in the back of the cylinder flange to allow manually released grease out of the adjuster system.
Cheers,
Eddie B.[/quote]

I think you're got it right there....one of the valves isn't seating. If it was a blown seal it would be leaking around the cylinder or piston. I had a new aftermarket track cylinder for my 6c that was doing the same thing....turned out they hadn't tapped the holes deep enough for the two valves and they bottomed in the thread before sealing.
The grease is coming out of the hole that is in line with the valve with the grease zirk on it. The other valve with the plain bolt head is screwed down tight and no grease is coming out of the hole in line with it. Could the one with the zerk need to be tightened down?
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Thu, Dec 22, 2016 7:27 AM
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The grease is coming out of the hole that is in line with the valve with the grease zirk on it. The other valve with the plain bolt head is screwed down tight and no grease is coming out of the hole in line with it. Could the one with the zerk need to be tightened down?
Should have mentioned both holes are on the same end as the valves, and all of this is on the end towards the front of the tractor, or idler.
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Thu, Dec 22, 2016 7:30 AM
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