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My books haven't arrived yet and I need a wiring diagram for the charging system on my 1961 D6B. 44A2457. PO has cut all the wires loose behind the dash. Only thing still hooked up is the hot wire and starter solenoid wire to an aftermarket ignition switch.
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Sat, Jan 5, 2019 10:11 AM
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Hot wire to one side of the ampmeter12 ga. 12 ga wire from other side of ampmeter to Batt on voltage regulator. All other wires , lights etc. to same side of ampmeter Generator and regulator wires Gen to gen, field to field. If ampmeter reads backwards, reverse wire sides. After market 1 wire alternator would attach to same Batt wire as regulator batt.
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Sat, Jan 5, 2019 11:27 AM
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Hot wire to one side of the ampmeter12 ga. 12 ga wire from other side of ampmeter to Batt on voltage regulator. All other wires , lights etc. to same side of ampmeter Generator and regulator wires Gen to gen, field to field. If ampmeter reads backwards, reverse wire sides. After market 1 wire alternator would attach to same Batt wire as regulator batt.
My problem is that the paper label on the regulator is gone. I found a picture showing the terminals on a regulator and generator. Will these connections be correct for my D6B?

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Sat, Jan 5, 2019 8:36 PM
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My problem is that the paper label on the regulator is gone. I found a picture showing the terminals on a regulator and generator. Will these connections be correct for my D6B?

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Also the cut-out relay contacts were very slightly welded together. They popped loose with a light touch of my finger. Cleaned them up with a point file. What would cause them to weld together in the first place?
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Sat, Jan 5, 2019 8:39 PM
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Regulator terminals are pretty standard by that time......BAT.....GEN........FLD........left to right
If you take the screw and the little clamp plate off, the 3 letter labels are stamped in the steel terminals. Its a good idea to do this so you can sand or scrape the surface to get good contact.

The cutout was probably stuck from heavy charging current. Should not happen, but that's about all I can think of. You should sand the surface with fine sandpaper, (not emery cloth for some reason), so it doesn't stick again from current passing through a small bump getting it hot and melting the surfaces together.

Once you get it hooked up you will need to polarize the generator. This is usually accomplished by momentarily shorting between the BAT and GEN terminals.
D2-5J's, D6-9U's, D318 and D333 power units, 12E-99E grader, 922B & 944A wheel loaders, D330C generator set, DW20 water tanker and a bunch of Jersey cows to take care of in my spare time😄
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Sat, Jan 5, 2019 10:03 PM
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Regulator terminals are pretty standard by that time......BAT.....GEN........FLD........left to right
If you take the screw and the little clamp plate off, the 3 letter labels are stamped in the steel terminals. Its a good idea to do this so you can sand or scrape the surface to get good contact.

The cutout was probably stuck from heavy charging current. Should not happen, but that's about all I can think of. You should sand the surface with fine sandpaper, (not emery cloth for some reason), so it doesn't stick again from current passing through a small bump getting it hot and melting the surfaces together.

Once you get it hooked up you will need to polarize the generator. This is usually accomplished by momentarily shorting between the BAT and GEN terminals.
Got the voltage regulator connections all cleaned up and installed back on the dozer. The one wire that was not cut going to the generator was connected to the FLD terminal at the regulator. I found the wire that was cut and connected it to the other wire from the generator and connected the other end at the regulator to the middle terminal (GEN). BAT of course to positive battery connection at the starter and regulator. Dash has volt meter so no ammeter connections. Made sure I had a good ground connection on the regulator case. New battery disconnect switch installed. Cleaned all electrical connections. Crimped and soldered all the new terminals I put on the wires. It got dark on me so in the morning I will polarize the generator by a jumper wire touched to the BAT and GEN terminals at the regulator and then start it up. Got my fingers crossed that all will work. Those battery ground cables are tough to get hooked up behind the dash on the new cut-out switch. Also got a new muffler and raincap put on. Got some fiberglass work to do on the dash cover. Thanks for all the information.
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Tue, Jan 8, 2019 3:23 PM
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Got the voltage regulator connections all cleaned up and installed back on the dozer. The one wire that was not cut going to the generator was connected to the FLD terminal at the regulator. I found the wire that was cut and connected it to the other wire from the generator and connected the other end at the regulator to the middle terminal (GEN). BAT of course to positive battery connection at the starter and regulator. Dash has volt meter so no ammeter connections. Made sure I had a good ground connection on the regulator case. New battery disconnect switch installed. Cleaned all electrical connections. Crimped and soldered all the new terminals I put on the wires. It got dark on me so in the morning I will polarize the generator by a jumper wire touched to the BAT and GEN terminals at the regulator and then start it up. Got my fingers crossed that all will work. Those battery ground cables are tough to get hooked up behind the dash on the new cut-out switch. Also got a new muffler and raincap put on. Got some fiberglass work to do on the dash cover. Thanks for all the information.
Hi Hdonly, I was out of town so this is too late, maybe this will be of use later or to others. These pages are from the D6B Operation and Maintenance Instructions.
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I threw in the 12V systems too.
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Wed, Jan 9, 2019 3:26 AM
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Hi Hdonly, I was out of town so this is too late, maybe this will be of use later or to others. These pages are from the D6B Operation and Maintenance Instructions.
[attachment=52246]Wire&Gen 1.jpg[/attachment] [attachment=52247]Wire&Gen 2.jpg[/attachment] [attachment=52248]Wire&Gen 3.jpg[/attachment] [attachment=52249]Wire&Gen 4.jpg[/attachment]
I threw in the 12V systems too.
Craig
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Generator is putting out good. Too good. At about 1/3 throttle it sits right on 28volts but climbs to 38volts when the throttle is advanced more. Looks like I need a new regulator.
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Thu, Jan 10, 2019 9:37 AM
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I have had some luck troubleshooting and adjusting regulators. First thing is to disconnect the field wire from the regulator and make sure that kills the voltage buildup. Don't want to blame the regulator for a problem in the generator. I found the field and gen wires swapped on our 12E grader. Overcharging and had been for a couple years! [

Then take cover off regulator and again make sure there are no stuck contacts. If they are not welded, then hook up a volt meter you can see from the regulator and take a wood stick to push on thekk888i* center of the moving contact bar above the magnetic coil to force the contacts open. Usually the middle one would be voltage regulator and to adjust voltage down you either adjust a spring anchor screw or bend the stationary spring anchor a tiny amount to loosen the spring tension. This makes it easier for current through the magnet coil to open the circuit. Tiny adjustments should do it.
D2-5J's, D6-9U's, D318 and D333 power units, 12E-99E grader, 922B & 944A wheel loaders, D330C generator set, DW20 water tanker and a bunch of Jersey cows to take care of in my spare time😄
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