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CatManD69U
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Hi all, this past weekend I purchased D6-9U10827 CAT dozer. The price was right and near by my home. Here are the questions I have.

1. Can somone decifer the SN for me?
2. Dozer moves forward and back, but the steering levers do nothing and lots of fluid coming out in the rears, just seals? Or more major?
3. Pulled the dip stick on what I think is the oil reservoir for said steering heat, looks like a strawberry’s milkshake.....wate and oil mix?

The unit is in amazing condition, almost like a time capsule. Hours read s hair over 1500.

Any help would be appreciated.
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Tue, Jun 5, 2018 2:29 AM
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1952 wide gauge D6---oil has water in it so needs to be changed--check all gear boxes for water and gear oil level--if the sprocket seals are leaking your final drives may be low
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Tue, Jun 5, 2018 4:52 AM
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I want it! Lol. 9Us are one of my favorites to operate. The 318 engine with 6 cylinders puuuuurrrrssss like a kitten. Nice score!
If the booster unit for the steering leaked out dry, you should still be able to steer by using your muscles. The booster is located directly under the seat, with the filler plug located at the rear of the fuel tank. In your case, the nice winch is in the way; I’m thinking you undo the hex plug and use a long flexible funnel to fill it up (with 30 weight oil?).
The dipstick you pulled near operator station is for the transmission.
The serial # someone else can chime in on the year of manufacture, as I don’t have my book handy.
Where is the oil leaking from your referred to?
Post more pictures please. More eye candy for us to enjoy. JM
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Tue, Jun 5, 2018 5:04 AM
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I want it! Lol. 9Us are one of my favorites to operate. The 318 engine with 6 cylinders puuuuurrrrssss like a kitten. Nice score!
If the booster unit for the steering leaked out dry, you should still be able to steer by using your muscles. The booster is located directly under the seat, with the filler plug located at the rear of the fuel tank. In your case, the nice winch is in the way; I’m thinking you undo the hex plug and use a long flexible funnel to fill it up (with 30 weight oil?).
The dipstick you pulled near operator station is for the transmission.
The serial # someone else can chime in on the year of manufacture, as I don’t have my book handy.
Where is the oil leaking from your referred to?
Post more pictures please. More eye candy for us to enjoy. JM
Always a good idea( I think) to change all the fluids on a machine you don't know the history on.

You can search on here and get pictures and info how to reseal you PS booster pump - if necessary.

The clutch must be engaged to drive that pump - so in neutral, stopped, clutch pushed forward , pump is not driven , won't work. The dip stick sounds like your transmission oil.

Perfect website for you, all the answers are here in one place
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Tue, Jun 5, 2018 5:28 AM
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Always a good idea( I think) to change all the fluids on a machine you don't know the history on.

You can search on here and get pictures and info how to reseal you PS booster pump - if necessary.

The clutch must be engaged to drive that pump - so in neutral, stopped, clutch pushed forward , pump is not driven , won't work. The dip stick sounds like your transmission oil.

Perfect website for you, all the answers are here in one place
Here’s a few more pics. The leak is on the left side as you sit in it, see pic. The steering clutches get wet if you try to use the levers. I didn’t know the clutch had to be engaged in order to use them.... thanks! As for the leakage, are the seals somewhat easy to replace? Any idea how much it might cost? I’ve neen looking for a long time for this, thankful I found it, now I need to figure out how to bring it back to 100^. Please keep up with your comments. Also... the engine almost purrs... it has a slight miss and the idle varies, I was wondering if that’s injector or.....? I did put 5 gals of fresh fuel in.
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Tue, Jun 5, 2018 8:44 AM
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Reply to TOGNOT:
Always a good idea( I think) to change all the fluids on a machine you don't know the history on.

You can search on here and get pictures and info how to reseal you PS booster pump - if necessary.

The clutch must be engaged to drive that pump - so in neutral, stopped, clutch pushed forward , pump is not driven , won't work. The dip stick sounds like your transmission oil.

Perfect website for you, all the answers are here in one place
Much easier to adjust steering and master clutches with a operators manual at your fingertips.The dipstick on deck is for transmission and bevel gear compartment. They have a passage that is small to connect so takes time to even out in both compartments. In a warmer climate I use 90 or 85/140 gear oil in transmission. With the water in there, open both compartments,each has a drain plug remove both to get all the crud out possible.


The winch is in your way to adjust brakes and steering clutches,as well as filling the hydraulic booster for steering.Unless under load it will not turn without the brakes being used as well.

Master clutch and steering clutch compartments are dry.Pull the plugs out of those compartments and get all water out of them.Good to drill the plug and put a cotter pin in it to move and keep it open to let condensation out.


I have never been so lucky as to have a old Cat mechanical hour meter work in the last 30 years. If it is working on yours I would bet it is on the second or third time around. Good luck to you with this venture.

Keep asking the answers are here.
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Tue, Jun 5, 2018 8:58 AM
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You may be under the impression that the steering clutch levers will create a turn by themselves. Well maybe, but maybe not. You normally have to use a steering brake in addition to the clutch to make much of a turn.....especially on a dozer that has been sitting up a while.

The steering clutches are dry clutches and the steering clutch compartment on each side has a drain plug that is removed to drain away condensation, rainwater that may find a way in and oil that may leak in from the bevel gear compartment in the center and the final drives. I think these will be about a 1" pipe thread plug with a square socket for a 1/2" drive. When the machine sits for long periods the clutches can stick from rust in the clutch pack and take some doing to get them broken loose and shined up.

The steering booster unit under the seat can be lifted off and resealed. One of the more common leaks is the booster pump which drives off the top transmission shaft. Any leakage from the shaft seal just disappears into the transmission/bevel gear compartment. The unit can also leak around the operating plungers in the front or around the hollow splined output pivot shafts which goes into the steering clutch compartment.

New aftermarket injector "valves" as CAT calls them are less than $30 each. If you want to test which one is causing the misfire or further diagnose it, you can easily swap injectors and even pumps to see if the misfire follows the swapped component or stays in the same cylinder. It is very common for the old CAT diesels to "lope" at idle. If it bothers you, try increasing the throttle setting a little. If that stops it you can raise the low idle setting by removing the curved cover on top of the governor and adjust the idle stop screw on the left (toward front of tractor).
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Tue, Jun 5, 2018 9:50 AM
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You may be under the impression that the steering clutch levers will create a turn by themselves. Well maybe, but maybe not. You normally have to use a steering brake in addition to the clutch to make much of a turn.....especially on a dozer that has been sitting up a while.

The steering clutches are dry clutches and the steering clutch compartment on each side has a drain plug that is removed to drain away condensation, rainwater that may find a way in and oil that may leak in from the bevel gear compartment in the center and the final drives. I think these will be about a 1" pipe thread plug with a square socket for a 1/2" drive. When the machine sits for long periods the clutches can stick from rust in the clutch pack and take some doing to get them broken loose and shined up.

The steering booster unit under the seat can be lifted off and resealed. One of the more common leaks is the booster pump which drives off the top transmission shaft. Any leakage from the shaft seal just disappears into the transmission/bevel gear compartment. The unit can also leak around the operating plungers in the front or around the hollow splined output pivot shafts which goes into the steering clutch compartment.

New aftermarket injector "valves" as CAT calls them are less than $30 each. If you want to test which one is causing the misfire or further diagnose it, you can easily swap injectors and even pumps to see if the misfire follows the swapped component or stays in the same cylinder. It is very common for the old CAT diesels to "lope" at idle. If it bothers you, try increasing the throttle setting a little. If that stops it you can raise the low idle setting by removing the curved cover on top of the governor and adjust the idle stop screw on the left (toward front of tractor).
When you drain the milky oil out of the transmission and bevel gear compartment, it would be a good idea to dump 5 gallons of diesel in there and run it back and forth a few times to clean the emulsified oil out.
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Tue, Jun 5, 2018 10:35 AM
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When you drain the milky oil out of the transmission and bevel gear compartment, it would be a good idea to dump 5 gallons of diesel in there and run it back and forth a few times to clean the emulsified oil out.
I bought a D6 9U a little over a year ago. I had several similar problems. You might search for my posts and get some good answers that others here helped me with.

You have to pull the fuel tank to access the steering booster, but you can move it out of the way with 2 guys and some 2 x 4's - you don't have to lift it off the tractor. At the same time you could remove the sheet metal covers above your brakes and steering clutches. You can then get a good look at them and give them a good cleaning.

My clutch compartments were so full of grease and dirt and ? That no amount of flushing would have fixed them. I scooped some out with my hand the rest with scrapers and tools made for the job.

Last thing : there are a couple of zerk fittings on your dry clutch. If they are ignored you will pull the clutch to replace the center bearing. You can see one in your picture - the other one is on the edge of the flywheel, you may have to rotate the motor to have it appear.
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Tue, Jun 5, 2018 11:35 AM
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I bought a D6 9U a little over a year ago. I had several similar problems. You might search for my posts and get some good answers that others here helped me with.

You have to pull the fuel tank to access the steering booster, but you can move it out of the way with 2 guys and some 2 x 4's - you don't have to lift it off the tractor. At the same time you could remove the sheet metal covers above your brakes and steering clutches. You can then get a good look at them and give them a good cleaning.

My clutch compartments were so full of grease and dirt and ? That no amount of flushing would have fixed them. I scooped some out with my hand the rest with scrapers and tools made for the job.

Last thing : there are a couple of zerk fittings on your dry clutch. If they are ignored you will pull the clutch to replace the center bearing. You can see one in your picture - the other one is on the edge of the flywheel, you may have to rotate the motor to have it appear.
Where can I purchase the manuals for a D69U? I’d also like to get the winch Manuel’s.


On another note, is removing the booster pump, assuming that’s what’s leaking, hard or just time consuming?
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Tue, Jun 5, 2018 8:53 PM
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Reply to CatManD69U:
Where can I purchase the manuals for a D69U? I’d also like to get the winch Manuel’s.


On another note, is removing the booster pump, assuming that’s what’s leaking, hard or just time consuming?
Ask in the for sale section here,and ebay generally seem to have manuels.I believe Cat is still selling them as well. On that note Cat still sells most all the parts to get your tractor back to good working order.

Had to check your picture again,but looks like you will have to remove the brush guard (that canopy is nowhere near a rops) to get fuel tank out of the way.Then the steering booster is right there and not that heavy. And as other have said clean up and adjust brakes and steering when you can see what your doing.
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Tue, Jun 5, 2018 10:26 PM
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