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 [attachment=77577]IMG_6497.jpg[/attachment] [attachment=77576]D6 Clucth 1.jpg[/attachment] [attachment=77577]IMG_6497.jpg[/attachment]I seem to be missing something here. I am reviving a D6 9U that's been abandoned in the toolies for about 30 years. When I tried to cycle the oil clutch, the lever would move rearward about 4 inches and hit a hard stop. After pulling a couple pins to see which end of the linkage was refusing to move, I discovered that the arm on the clutch lever itself was contacting the underside of the crossmember the pedals are mounted on. When the lever is all the way forward, there is about 3/8 of an inch between the arm and the crossmember. There is absolutely no way it could possibly pull he clutch arm up far enough to toggle the clutch in. I know this Cat did a lot of work in the past, but how in the wide world of sports could it have ever operated in this condition? It appears from the parts book that all the linkages are in line and connected properly. They would work if the pull arm on the lever did not impact the crossmember. Obviously I am missing the big picture here. Can anyone give me a bit of experienced advice? Thanking you in advance - Jeff [attachment=77576]D6 Clucth 1.jpg[/attachment]
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Thu, Sep 12, 2024 8:02 AM
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I am not visualizing this very well, so a shot in the dark here. So I better go out back and look a 9u over. The clutch lever has to run the clutch brake and the transmission interlock. Are these hocked up? Is the clutch lever on the peg backwards?
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Thu, Sep 12, 2024 10:53 PM
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I am not visualizing this very well, so a shot in the dark here. So I better go out back and look a 9u over. The clutch lever has to run the clutch brake and the transmission interlock. Are these hocked up? Is the clutch lever on the peg backwards?
Could be clutch out of adjustment and not snapping over centre when engaged. Is there any resistance on the lever? Is engine running or stopped? There is something wrong deeper down. Linkage to interlock is bent won't be helpful. All part of the fun!
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Fri, Sep 13, 2024 4:41 AM
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Could be clutch out of adjustment and not snapping over centre when engaged. Is there any resistance on the lever? Is engine running or stopped? There is something wrong deeper down. Linkage to interlock is bent won't be helpful. All part of the fun!
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The transmission interlock linkage is straight and in line - not angled, twisted, bent, or binding. Same for the clutch brake linkage. If I were to shorten the adjustment between the lever and clutch arm enough to move the arm up a couple inches with each pull, the lever would be out over the hood, nearly out of reach to the operator. I would have to shorten the interlock rod too, since it pushes the interlock to it's internal stop - that limits the present lever travel at the handle to a total of about 4 inches. Forward, the interlock bottoms, rearward, the arm impacts the crossmember.
The parts book diagram of the clutch control linkage plainly shows the lever in relation to the crossmember. Something is out of whack here. I am staring directly at, but cannot see it.
Any other ideas and/or suggestions? Thanks, Jeff
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Fri, Sep 13, 2024 6:03 AM
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Thank you both for checking in.
The transmission interlock linkage is straight and in line - not angled, twisted, bent, or binding. Same for the clutch brake linkage. If I were to shorten the adjustment between the lever and clutch arm enough to move the arm up a couple inches with each pull, the lever would be out over the hood, nearly out of reach to the operator. I would have to shorten the interlock rod too, since it pushes the interlock to it's internal stop - that limits the present lever travel at the handle to a total of about 4 inches. Forward, the interlock bottoms, rearward, the arm impacts the crossmember.
The parts book diagram of the clutch control linkage plainly shows the lever in relation to the crossmember. Something is out of whack here. I am staring directly at, but cannot see it.
Any other ideas and/or suggestions? Thanks, Jeff
Look deeper....The clutch yoke lever arm is keyed and clamped to the yoke shaft which usually makes a good trouble free connection but the yoke itself relies on a key between yoke and shaft. Not uncommon to have the key and keyway get hogged out to where you lose indexing of the linkage.
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Fri, Sep 13, 2024 7:42 AM
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Look deeper....The clutch yoke lever arm is keyed and clamped to the yoke shaft which usually makes a good trouble free connection but the yoke itself relies on a key between yoke and shaft. Not uncommon to have the key and keyway get hogged out to where you lose indexing of the linkage.
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I will certainly check the cross shaft, arm, and keyway condition. Don't know if it would do me any good, though. The total upward travel of the clutch arm, with only about 4 inches of total travel on the control stick - is about 3/4 inches, up and down. I will disconnect the rod to the transmission interlock to see if it might be one of he culprits. The clutch brake and clutch cross shaft and internal mechanism seem to work fine when disconnected and isolated from the lever. Jeff
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Fri, Sep 13, 2024 10:20 PM
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Thank You, Mr. Old Magnet:
I will certainly check the cross shaft, arm, and keyway condition. Don't know if it would do me any good, though. The total upward travel of the clutch arm, with only about 4 inches of total travel on the control stick - is about 3/4 inches, up and down. I will disconnect the rod to the transmission interlock to see if it might be one of he culprits. The clutch brake and clutch cross shaft and internal mechanism seem to work fine when disconnected and isolated from the lever. Jeff
Yes, check the interlock linkage, it could be restricting the clutch lever travel.
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