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Hi all. I took a break from trying to get my clutch to work properly on the D5 just to find myself with a fuel issue after about an hour of use. Gauge on the dash started reading "out". My understanding is that it is time for fuel filter. I had spare. The sediment bowl had enormous trash in it. I got that clean and spun on a new secondary. My primer pump seems to do nothing. Do these regularly quit? It looks serviceable.

It looks like this in the photo -> https://www.ebay.com/p/9H2256-Fuel-Priming-Pump-for-Caterpillar-Cat-D6c/2038096346
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Wed, Dec 26, 2018 11:37 PM
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There is an o-ring on the piston and check balls in the pump head. Not worth messing with to fix when complete replacements are that cheap. They are a lot more reliable than the early versions with piston cups.
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Wed, Dec 26, 2018 11:48 PM
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There is an o-ring on the piston and check balls in the pump head. Not worth messing with to fix when complete replacements are that cheap. They are a lot more reliable than the early versions with piston cups.
The ball and spring check valves are very serviceable, but a new one is only 23.00. Never saw many failures except slow leaks out the plunger when worn out from viberation of thousands of hours running.
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Thu, Dec 27, 2018 4:58 AM
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Reply to oldbeek:
The ball and spring check valves are very serviceable, but a new one is only 23.00. Never saw many failures except slow leaks out the plunger when worn out from viberation of thousands of hours running.
Are these only $23.00 off the internet? I suspect it’s higher from a dealership?
Curious, as I have a D5 and a D6C that could use new ones. Repairing looks like a PITA.
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Thu, Dec 27, 2018 6:09 AM
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Are these only $23.00 off the internet? I suspect it’s higher from a dealership?
Curious, as I have a D5 and a D6C that could use new ones. Repairing looks like a PITA.
Cat shows 9H2256 replaced by 311-9443 for $50.11 and is a classic part.
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Thu, Dec 27, 2018 6:33 AM
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Reply to Rome K/G:
Cat shows 9H2256 replaced by 311-9443 for $50.11 and is a classic part.
Hi Team,
scan below may help. It is typical of the small bore brass priming pumps of the day--seals should fit yours.
Crud under the valve seats, broken ball springs failed piston and plunger seals are the norm for these. Always lock them back down so the needle valve seals for a longer life expectancy.
Cheers,
Eddie B.
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Thu, Dec 27, 2018 7:55 AM
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Reply to juiceman:
Are these only $23.00 off the internet? I suspect it’s higher from a dealership?
Curious, as I have a D5 and a D6C that could use new ones. Repairing looks like a PITA.
[quote="juiceman"]Are these only $23.00 off the internet? I suspect it’s higher from a dealership?
Curious, as I have a D5 and a D6C that could use new ones. Repairing looks like a PITA.[/quote]

For that price I will try an aftermarket one and see how it goes. I will then look at the original and see what I can do with it. Might have a spare. If it goes the way of the aftermarket petcock I bought (already leaking), I might be headed to get ond of those "classic Cat parts".
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Thu, Dec 27, 2018 11:20 PM
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[quote="juiceman"]Are these only $23.00 off the internet? I suspect it’s higher from a dealership?
Curious, as I have a D5 and a D6C that could use new ones. Repairing looks like a PITA.[/quote]

For that price I will try an aftermarket one and see how it goes. I will then look at the original and see what I can do with it. Might have a spare. If it goes the way of the aftermarket petcock I bought (already leaking), I might be headed to get ond of those "classic Cat parts".
I had one of those pumps for years with multiple hose connections. Great tool for diagnosing fuel problems on various tractors. Left it at my last job to a younger mechanic. Might buy one just to have it for troubleshooting.
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Fri, Dec 28, 2018 2:59 AM
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I had one of those pumps for years with multiple hose connections. Great tool for diagnosing fuel problems on various tractors. Left it at my last job to a younger mechanic. Might buy one just to have it for troubleshooting.
I was able to fill the filter manually and eventually get it cranked. Fuel pressure back where it needs to be on the gauge.
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Mon, Dec 31, 2018 8:02 AM
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