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Rob Brown
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After this VT winter the clutch seems stuck so that the pony motor is trying (unsuccessfully of course) to crank the main engine. What do I need to do?
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Wed, Jun 2, 2010 11:35 PM
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If the pony is trying to turn the main, the pony clutch pinion has to be engaged. Maybe someone engaged the pinion when the tractor was parked. There is an inspection cover on the clutch top cover which you can remove to get a look at the pinion. If it is engaged, you can disengage it with a pair of channel locks by squeezing the dogs on the end of the pinion.
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Thu, Jun 3, 2010 12:18 AM
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Reply to Mike Walsh:
If the pony is trying to turn the main, the pony clutch pinion has to be engaged. Maybe someone engaged the pinion when the tractor was parked. There is an inspection cover on the clutch top cover which you can remove to get a look at the pinion. If it is engaged, you can disengage it with a pair of channel locks by squeezing the dogs on the end of the pinion.
Thank you for the information, Mike. I'll try your suggestion.
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Thu, Jun 3, 2010 12:36 AM
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Reply to Rob Brown:
Thank you for the information, Mike. I'll try your suggestion.
We removed the engaging yoke and made sure the clutch assembly could move back and forth freely, after some effort as it was dry in there. Are there clutch plates stuck together?
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Thu, Jun 3, 2010 1:37 AM
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Reply to Rob Brown:
We removed the engaging yoke and made sure the clutch assembly could move back and forth freely, after some effort as it was dry in there. Are there clutch plates stuck together?
Yes your cluchs should be stuck together just refill with oil and play
with the lever you need a snap for angaging and try to adjusted
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Thu, Jun 3, 2010 4:27 AM
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Reply to gemdozer:
Yes your cluchs should be stuck together just refill with oil and play
with the lever you need a snap for angaging and try to adjusted
As long as he needs to fill it with lube. What does everyone recommend?
I'm curious because I need to flush and refill mine. What about putting ATF in it instead of a petroleum based lubricant?
Thanks!
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Thu, Jun 3, 2010 8:26 AM
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Yes on the ATF.

I would think it's just the thing for one that's been run dry and gummed up with old oil.
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Thu, Jun 3, 2010 3:48 PM
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Yes on the ATF.

I would think it's just the thing for one that's been run dry and gummed up with old oil.
Thank you Gents I will fill with ATF. I can start by towing with a skidder I have. Would running it around for a few hours help to distribute the ATF and free things up?
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Thu, Jun 3, 2010 9:25 PM
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Reply to Rob Brown:
Thank you Gents I will fill with ATF. I can start by towing with a skidder I have. Would running it around for a few hours help to distribute the ATF and free things up?
If the pinion is truly engaged, then when you tow it to start, the engine flywheel should turn with enough revolutions to disengage the pinion. So "running it for a few hours" will not help.
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Thu, Jun 3, 2010 9:42 PM
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If the pinion is truly engaged, then when you tow it to start, the engine flywheel should turn with enough revolutions to disengage the pinion. So "running it for a few hours" will not help.
If your pony motor is engaged, it will not disengage until the main engine spins with sufficient rpm to disengage it or until you manually disengage it. The pinion is engaged by pulling up on the right stick (pinion control) located on the side of your bell housing. The left stick operates your clutch. If someone pulled up on the right stick when the tractor was parked (not running) they could have engaged the pinion. Once the pinion snaps in, your clutch lever will not release it. Look for a 2+ inch round cover on your main engine clutch cover just behind the pony motor clutch. If you remove the 2 inch cover, you can access the pinion and release it by squeezing two dogs (latches) on the end of the pinion sleeve. Don't mess with the adjustment screws in the latches. The hardest part about the whole process is removing and replacing the sheet metal covering the main clutch cover.
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Thu, Jun 3, 2010 10:56 PM
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If your pony motor is engaged, it will not disengage until the main engine spins with sufficient rpm to disengage it or until you manually disengage it. The pinion is engaged by pulling up on the right stick (pinion control) located on the side of your bell housing. The left stick operates your clutch. If someone pulled up on the right stick when the tractor was parked (not running) they could have engaged the pinion. Once the pinion snaps in, your clutch lever will not release it. Look for a 2+ inch round cover on your main engine clutch cover just behind the pony motor clutch. If you remove the 2 inch cover, you can access the pinion and release it by squeezing two dogs (latches) on the end of the pinion sleeve. Don't mess with the adjustment screws in the latches. The hardest part about the whole process is removing and replacing the sheet metal covering the main clutch cover.
Often you can disengage the pony clutch by; 1. push the clutch lever to the left to disengage the clutch, 2. push the pinion lever down, 3. release compression on the diesel and 4. grab the fan and turn the diesel the way it normally turns.

If this doesn't work, then it's time to pull the left floor plate, remove the little cover on the flywheel housing and disengage it manually as per previous posts or tow it. I'm lazy enough I try the easiest way first before I get the wrenches out 😆 It can be a pain getting that left floor plate off without taking the linkage off the main hand clutch. .
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Fri, Jun 4, 2010 8:48 PM
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