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My tractor has a slow leak which originates from the outside of the right sprocket. So far I've removed the guard plate, the cap and the lock on the retainer nut. When I removed the cap about 1/4 cup of oil was pooled behind the cap and came out. I jacked up the right sprocket and I placed a bar between the sprocket and the track roller frame...did not get any movement or looseness with the sprocket.
I was thinking of possibly stopping the leak by tightning the bearing adjusting nut but I'm not sure how to proceed from here. I've read a lot of the previous posts about this topic but it's still not clear. Does the bearing need adjusting if the sprocket is not loose? I've attached a few pictures.
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1954 D47U, 1957 D69U, 1987 JD 950
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Thu, Aug 11, 2011 11:53 PM
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If you're going to tighten that nut, remember to go counterclockwise with it. I don't have the wrench that the books show, I use about a 3' prybar, poke it between two track pads and really lean on it using the pad as a fulcrum.
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Fri, Aug 12, 2011 9:00 PM
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Reply to ol Grump:
If you're going to tighten that nut, remember to go counterclockwise with it. I don't have the wrench that the books show, I use about a 3' prybar, poke it between two track pads and really lean on it using the pad as a fulcrum.
Thanks for the reply ol Grump, I was aware that the adjusting nut had to be turned counterclockwise to tighten the bearing. What I was wondering about was whether the retaining nut on the sprocket shaft came into play in this adjustment and whether the looseness of the sprocket has anything to do with the outer bearing adjustment?
As far as getting a 3 foot pry bar, the fit was just too TIGHT to fit in between the track pads. I went ahead and used a 3 foot bar with a small sledge hammer and tapped the adjusting nut 3 notches...I'll leave it at that and see if it does anything to stop the leak.
If anyone has any ideas I would be glad to hear them.

John
1954 D47U, 1957 D69U, 1987 JD 950
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Sun, Aug 14, 2011 11:17 PM
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Reply to johnstone:
Thanks for the reply ol Grump, I was aware that the adjusting nut had to be turned counterclockwise to tighten the bearing. What I was wondering about was whether the retaining nut on the sprocket shaft came into play in this adjustment and whether the looseness of the sprocket has anything to do with the outer bearing adjustment?
As far as getting a 3 foot pry bar, the fit was just too TIGHT to fit in between the track pads. I went ahead and used a 3 foot bar with a small sledge hammer and tapped the adjusting nut 3 notches...I'll leave it at that and see if it does anything to stop the leak.
If anyone has any ideas I would be glad to hear them.

John
[quote="johnstone"]Thanks for the reply ol Grump, I was aware that the adjusting nut had to be turned counterclockwise to tighten the bearing. What I was wondering about was whether the retaining nut on the sprocket shaft came into play in this adjustment and whether the looseness of the sprocket has anything to do with the outer bearing adjustment?
As far as getting a 3 foot pry bar, the fit was just too TIGHT to fit in between the track pads. I went ahead and used a 3 foot bar with a small sledge hammer and tapped the adjusting nut 3 notches...I'll leave it at that and see if it does anything to stop the leak.
If anyone has any ideas I would be glad to hear them.

John[/quote]

Hi John, if you only managed to move it 3 notches then it sounds to be like the bearing pre-load was about OK. Isn't this leak more likely to be a worn out bellows seal? I be tempted to pull the outer bearing housing assembly off and take a look.

Though it's worth noting that I thought I had a bad bellows seal on my D4 but after I pulled it apart I discovered it was fine and the actual leak was via a cork gasket on that adjusting nut you just turned!

(Don't treat this as gospel as I'm just a beginner with Cats!)

Julian.
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Mon, Aug 15, 2011 4:08 AM
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Reply to Julian:
[quote="johnstone"]Thanks for the reply ol Grump, I was aware that the adjusting nut had to be turned counterclockwise to tighten the bearing. What I was wondering about was whether the retaining nut on the sprocket shaft came into play in this adjustment and whether the looseness of the sprocket has anything to do with the outer bearing adjustment?
As far as getting a 3 foot pry bar, the fit was just too TIGHT to fit in between the track pads. I went ahead and used a 3 foot bar with a small sledge hammer and tapped the adjusting nut 3 notches...I'll leave it at that and see if it does anything to stop the leak.
If anyone has any ideas I would be glad to hear them.

John[/quote]

Hi John, if you only managed to move it 3 notches then it sounds to be like the bearing pre-load was about OK. Isn't this leak more likely to be a worn out bellows seal? I be tempted to pull the outer bearing housing assembly off and take a look.

Though it's worth noting that I thought I had a bad bellows seal on my D4 but after I pulled it apart I discovered it was fine and the actual leak was via a cork gasket on that adjusting nut you just turned!

(Don't treat this as gospel as I'm just a beginner with Cats!)

Julian.
Looks like a leaky final drive seal to me.
No, the outer nut does not have anything to do with adjusting the outer bearing preload.....unless it gets loose and lets the bearing cage holder move. The nut should be tight ( 300 to 400 ft. lbs.)

No gasket under the nut like on the early small hub tractors.
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Mon, Aug 15, 2011 9:22 AM
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