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I recently inherited my late fathers 1947 D4 7U 2781 dozer. He bought it used and worked on it more than he used it. It had over 23,000 hrs on it and in need of repairs the pins and bushings are heavily worn and need replacing and the lift cylinders are worn though the chrome and have a indent in the shaft. I am looking for options and would appreciate any info you could supply. I thank you in advance.
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Mon, Dec 24, 2018 11:41 AM
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While I'm by no means an expert here you can get the cylinders rebuilt for under 1,000 for the pair including new shafts IIRC.

The pin and bushing? How are the rails and under carriage?

Now throw in that it was your dad's? I know a lot of guys looking for old family tractors who really regret letting them go in the first place. You can't replace that especially if you and your dad was close.

Me? I'd be fixing had it been my dad's.

Rick
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Mon, Dec 24, 2018 7:27 PM
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The classic answer to your questions is "a parts machine"......... Or several!

Both the tracks and the hydraulic cylinder rods are expensive parts of the whole dozer package and quite a few are scrapped or parted out instead of replacing those.

On the positive side, both are available from aftermarket sources or sometimes even as CAT Classic parts from the dealer at a substantial discount.

How about some pictures?
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Mon, Dec 24, 2018 7:53 PM
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Reply to ccjersey:
The classic answer to your questions is "a parts machine"......... Or several!

Both the tracks and the hydraulic cylinder rods are expensive parts of the whole dozer package and quite a few are scrapped or parted out instead of replacing those.

On the positive side, both are available from aftermarket sources or sometimes even as CAT Classic parts from the dealer at a substantial discount.

How about some pictures?
Here's my take on anything I own that's old. Get it running first, make it move second, then stop third, after that everything else is gravy. If it won't do those first three things, you're wasting time, energy, and money. IMHO.

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Mon, Dec 24, 2018 8:14 PM
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While I'm by no means an expert here you can get the cylinders rebuilt for under 1,000 for the pair including new shafts IIRC.

The pin and bushing? How are the rails and under carriage?

Now throw in that it was your dad's? I know a lot of guys looking for old family tractors who really regret letting them go in the first place. You can't replace that especially if you and your dad was close.

Me? I'd be fixing had it been my dad's.

Rick
Thank you for your reply. The cylinders I expect to be in that ball park also, I can get aftermarket cylinders for around $800 but I would have to alter or fabricate the way they would mount and I’m not sure I want to mix and match like that .As for the rails and undercarriage I assume your asking about the links that make up the chain assembly and the rollers. I have read and looked at quit a few posts and pictures since April when my father died by comparison it’s all worn heavily the bushings are gone on the bottom side it’s riding on the pins and it must have some bad lower rollers on the right side because I’m seeing wear up the side of the link and against the boss for the pin. I would like nothing more than to restore the old girl for my dad but I’ll have to take little bites so to speak. The sprockets are worn but not as bad as a lot I’ve seen posted. I’ve read it’s possible to weld them up and have considered doing that. I will post some photos when it gets daylight
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Mon, Dec 24, 2018 8:23 PM
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Thank you for your reply. The cylinders I expect to be in that ball park also, I can get aftermarket cylinders for around $800 but I would have to alter or fabricate the way they would mount and I’m not sure I want to mix and match like that .As for the rails and undercarriage I assume your asking about the links that make up the chain assembly and the rollers. I have read and looked at quit a few posts and pictures since April when my father died by comparison it’s all worn heavily the bushings are gone on the bottom side it’s riding on the pins and it must have some bad lower rollers on the right side because I’m seeing wear up the side of the link and against the boss for the pin. I would like nothing more than to restore the old girl for my dad but I’ll have to take little bites so to speak. The sprockets are worn but not as bad as a lot I’ve seen posted. I’ve read it’s possible to weld them up and have considered doing that. I will post some photos when it gets daylight
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More than likely you need a better set of chains. Look for a parts tractor for yourself. Maybe one will come along that has the parts you need.
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Mon, Dec 24, 2018 8:33 PM
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More than likely you need a better set of chains. Look for a parts tractor for yourself. Maybe one will come along that has the parts you need.
are the lift cylinders leaking badly? You may get away with them for a while if not leaking too bad, so you could concentrate on the undercarriage. sprockets can be welded up but more common is to weld on new sprocket rims. Rollers can be built up with weld but you have to check shaft and bearing play in them---the same with the idlers.
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Mon, Dec 24, 2018 8:46 PM
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Reply to Texasbanton:
Here's my take on anything I own that's old. Get it running first, make it move second, then stop third, after that everything else is gravy. If it won't do those first three things, you're wasting time, energy, and money. IMHO.

Zeke
[quote="Texasbanton"]Here's my take on anything I own that's old. Get it running first, make it move second, then stop third, after that everything else is gravy. If it won't do those first three things, you're wasting time, energy, and money. IMHO.

Zeke[/quote]

I think this is a workable approach, but first take off anything external like a blade, hydraulics, CCU, as there is no sense in reaching over and around all that stuff the hundreds or thousands of times needed to access the tractor.
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Mon, Dec 24, 2018 9:31 PM
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are the lift cylinders leaking badly? You may get away with them for a while if not leaking too bad, so you could concentrate on the undercarriage. sprockets can be welded up but more common is to weld on new sprocket rims. Rollers can be built up with weld but you have to check shaft and bearing play in them---the same with the idlers.
Here are some pics the pony motor runs the Diesel engine runs it’s an old dozer with a lot of hrs on it.
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Here are some pics the pony motor runs the Diesel engine runs it’s an old dozer with a lot of hrs on it.
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I have had problems with water in the side and back of my yard during the wet seasons. I got the dozer running and drove it from my dads place which is next door and struggled with freeing up components and draining water from the lower end . I read everything I could on this site and others gaining information. I decided to make a small pond out back and so it began it started with rust in the fuel tank which would plug the fuel filter so I flushed out the fuel tank which opened a hole so I braised that shut and had a bearing go out in the starter pinion clutch. After repairing that I put spacers in the track adjustment to tighten the wore out tracks so they wouldn’t skip and then the hydraulic cylinders started leaking but the last straw was when the master pin in the right side track snapped ,knowing how woren the tracks are I have been looking for replacements I found some in Iowa but their like 27 hrs from Michigan and the freight on shipping them is as much as the tracks were. So here I am asking questions and reading all your reply’s I thank you all for your input. I have included more pics also.
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are the lift cylinders leaking badly? You may get away with them for a while if not leaking too bad, so you could concentrate on the undercarriage. sprockets can be welded up but more common is to weld on new sprocket rims. Rollers can be built up with weld but you have to check shaft and bearing play in them---the same with the idlers.
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This is the rod from the one cylinder I have apart
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