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HighlandFarmer
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Hello everyone, I recently purchased a 1948 D4-7U and after the first couple of times running the machine, the pony motor started having issues. There seemed to be an issue with the magneto so I timed it today, but now there's oil spewing out of the pony motor exhaust and the dipstick gets shot out when I try to start the pony. The dipstick was getting shot out a bit before timing it but no oil out the exhaust. It tries to run for about 10-15 seconds and then dies. Any thoughts about what I should check first? I don't want to do any damage that I don't have to do at this point. And I definitely can't afford to have someone come look at it. Any help would be much appreciated.
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Wed, Mar 13, 2013 8:26 AM
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u got to much oil in it, (1 1/4 qt max) or big time compression getting into crank case. good luck.
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Wed, Mar 13, 2013 8:31 AM
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Reply to ag-mike:
u got to much oil in it, (1 1/4 qt max) or big time compression getting into crank case. good luck.
Hi HF,
as ag-mike suggested, the oil level is likely too high and, diluted by gas, in the sump.
If the pony is stopped by turning off the Magneto Switch and forgetting to close off the fuel/gas taps movement of the machine causes the carby float/needle to jiggle on its seat and gas floods in to the cylinders and dilutes the pony oil.

Thin diluted high levelled oil will then cause the dipstick to eject and oil to issue from the exhaust as the oil control rings cannot cope with the thinned oil.
Drain and refill the pony sump with fresh oil to the correct level.

It is importaint to only ever stop the pony--unless in an emergency--by shutting the gas taps and allowing the pony to stop by running out of gas.
This method of shutting down the pony stops all of the above occuring as well as allowing fresh gas to be in the carby bowl for the next start.
Any gas remaining in the bowl also causes needle and seat wear as the components jiggle about during operation.
The remaining gas also evaporates off the light fractions of the gas leaving a stale oily hard to fire mess in the bowl.----especially with today's cruddy gas.

Hope this helps.
Cheers,
Eddie B.
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Wed, Mar 13, 2013 11:11 AM
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Hi HF,
as ag-mike suggested, the oil level is likely too high and, diluted by gas, in the sump.
If the pony is stopped by turning off the Magneto Switch and forgetting to close off the fuel/gas taps movement of the machine causes the carby float/needle to jiggle on its seat and gas floods in to the cylinders and dilutes the pony oil.

Thin diluted high levelled oil will then cause the dipstick to eject and oil to issue from the exhaust as the oil control rings cannot cope with the thinned oil.
Drain and refill the pony sump with fresh oil to the correct level.

It is importaint to only ever stop the pony--unless in an emergency--by shutting the gas taps and allowing the pony to stop by running out of gas.
This method of shutting down the pony stops all of the above occuring as well as allowing fresh gas to be in the carby bowl for the next start.
Any gas remaining in the bowl also causes needle and seat wear as the components jiggle about during operation.
The remaining gas also evaporates off the light fractions of the gas leaving a stale oily hard to fire mess in the bowl.----especially with today's cruddy gas.

Hope this helps.
Cheers,
Eddie B.
Thanks for the help everyone, it worked. The guy I'm making payments to for the dozer borrowed it to do some work on his place and the guy he had pick it up must have turned it off the wrong way and overfilled the oil somehow. No more borrowing, that's for sure! It seems like every time I let someone use my equipment something bad happens to it. I have the owners/operators manual for the tractor somewhere but I can't find it and need a general blowup diagram of the outside of the tractor, does anyone have one that they could post? Also, I'm going to need to buy all of the service manuals for it, any suggestions of where to look?

Thanks a lot,
Karl
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