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Rockit
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I'm looking at a 90's d3b that has transmisson issues, guy said it started slipping so that took it to local cat dealer and they told him it was a cracked valve on or in transmision and it would be $6500 for them to fix it, anyone heard of this problem? If I do buy it is will fix it myself, and idea if this cracked valve would be internal or external on Trans, I'm guessing internal if it's going to be that much for them to fix? Machine only has 2100hrs and is super clean so I'm thinking I need it. Thanks in advance for any info.
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Thu, Mar 9, 2017 9:46 PM
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First thing to do would be to get a service manual (pricey, about $300+ or CD option) and do the pressure checks on the transmission to determine source of problem. Have you checked the obvious like oil levels and filter condition, leaks, etc?
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Thu, Mar 9, 2017 10:50 PM
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Reply to Old Magnet:
First thing to do would be to get a service manual (pricey, about $300+ or CD option) and do the pressure checks on the transmission to determine source of problem. Have you checked the obvious like oil levels and filter condition, leaks, etc?
Sounds to me like the dealer didn't want the job, its probably more like OM says, a sludged up scavenge screen or something.
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Thu, Mar 9, 2017 11:34 PM
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Sounds to me like the dealer didn't want the job, its probably more like OM says, a sludged up scavenge screen or something.
I haven't bought the machine yet was just wondering if anyone had heard of anything lime this before, I did read some other discussions on Trans problem solving on these but never found the conclusion of what they found. Yes if I buy it is will get a service Manuel for it, I have a cousin that is a service tech for cat I wonder if he can transfer me it off his laptop? I will have to ask him
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Thu, Mar 9, 2017 11:43 PM
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Reply to Rockit:
I haven't bought the machine yet was just wondering if anyone had heard of anything lime this before, I did read some other discussions on Trans problem solving on these but never found the conclusion of what they found. Yes if I buy it is will get a service Manuel for it, I have a cousin that is a service tech for cat I wonder if he can transfer me it off his laptop? I will have to ask him
No, can't say that I've ever heard of the "cracked valve" diagnosis but anything is possible.
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Thu, Mar 9, 2017 11:51 PM
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Reply to Old Magnet:
No, can't say that I've ever heard of the "cracked valve" diagnosis but anything is possible.
As previously mentioned, I would check the transmission filter screen. If it's plugged it will effect performance. Also whats plugging up the screen may lead you to the problem.

I had a D3 that was sluggish until we cleaned the screen.

Good luck.
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Fri, Mar 10, 2017 9:48 PM
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As previously mentioned, I would check the transmission filter screen. If it's plugged it will effect performance. Also whats plugging up the screen may lead you to the problem.

I had a D3 that was sluggish until we cleaned the screen.

Good luck.
my 1987 D3B---27y--has filter also for the transmission---first time i changed it i cut it open and found a bit of debris in the folds---too bad my service manual is 200 miles from me right now
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Sat, Mar 11, 2017 2:18 AM
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my 1987 D3B---27y--has filter also for the transmission---first time i changed it i cut it open and found a bit of debris in the folds---too bad my service manual is 200 miles from me right now
Rockit

here's what the boys are talking about,

Kelly


[attachment=40573]Inspect transsmission screen every 250 hours_page1.jpg[/attachment]
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Sat, Mar 11, 2017 6:27 AM
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Rockit

here's what the boys are talking about,

Kelly


[attachment=40573]Inspect transsmission screen every 250 hours_page1.jpg[/attachment]
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If the screen collapses due to debris, or sludge created by condensation, the screen will collapse and further restrict oil supply. I saw this a couple of times back in the '70's.
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Sat, Mar 11, 2017 7:13 AM
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If the screen collapses due to debris, or sludge created by condensation, the screen will collapse and further restrict oil supply. I saw this a couple of times back in the '70's.
Ok thanks guys, actually just going to look at the machine now. If I can get it bought I will tear into it.
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Sun, Mar 12, 2017 2:07 AM
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Ok thanks guys, actually just going to look at the machine now. If I can get it bought I will tear into it.
Hi Team,
as Catsilver said, these screens clog with fine lint and crud and cannot be cleaned if it has bee run for some time like this.
The lint seems to embed in the very fine mesh and is there to stay--We have tried and failed on occasion--you may be lucky as they are not cheap from memory.
The clogged screen causes slow shifting and sluggish operation due to lack of oil flow and cavitation aeration of the oil--if bad enough clutches can be destroyed despite the Safety Valve.
Cheers,
Eddie B.
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