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venco2003
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We have a 1956 Cat 12 grader with a D318 engine. We had some head issues and were told it couldn't be repaired. We located a used head and had it checked out and serviced, (new guides etc.) When we went to install it everything looked good until we looked at the injectors and pre combustion chambers. Our Cat 12 had an electric start with glow plugs. The replacement head we purchased must have come off an engine with a pony starting motor (no glow plugs). The pre-combustion chambers from our original head appear to have a larger diameter than those without glow plugs. Do we have any options to get this replacement head set up with glow plugs?

Do we have any other options to get this head to work with an electric starting system? Any help would be greatly appreciated. Our local Cat dealer isn't much help with something this old. In fact I was told that this age grader shouldn't even have an electric start.
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Mon, Feb 10, 2014 11:26 PM
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The early heads can be bored out to receive the larger diameter glow plug chambers. It's either that, find a later head or run without glow plugs.
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Tue, Feb 11, 2014 12:10 AM
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Reply to Old Magnet:
The early heads can be bored out to receive the larger diameter glow plug chambers. It's either that, find a later head or run without glow plugs.
I just replaced a cracked 318 head on a grader about a month ago, I ran into the same thing. Florin tractor had a direct electric head, but we found one a little closer. So you could see if they still had it if you go that route. You could also try a "flame thrower" intake manifold heater, I'm told they work well, however I have never been around one. I believe they were used on some Perkins applications.

Hope this helps.

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Tue, Feb 11, 2014 1:12 AM
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The flame thrower is called a thermostart, probably could put in a couple of them in the block-off plates over the openings where the pony exhaust runs through the intake manifold. You would need to connect a fuel line from the fuel filter tower to the thermostart units. The ones I have seen have been on tractors with an injector return line which was convenient to Tee into. There is a block-off plate on the rear of the filter tower where a return line is attached on some industrial engines which would be a convenient place to tap in on your grader.

Here's a link to a google search page which should help you find thermostart units.
https://www.google.com/search?sourceid=navclient&ie=UTF-8&rlz=1T4GGHP_enUS424US424&q=thermostart

Alternatively, you could use a grid air heater installed in one of the joints in the air intake pipe. These are common on Cummins 5.9 engines in Dodge trucks etc.

Might have to use 2 of either of these units connected in series to handle the 24 volt supply or find a source of 24 volt units.

Or install an electric ether injector or spray the can yourself. I really like to spray it by hand whenever possible, it gives me more control over the total amount and the rate it goes into the intake. Ether goes right through an oil bath air filter unit with no problems.
D2-5J's, D6-9U's, D318 and D333 power units, 12E-99E grader, 922B & 944A wheel loaders, D330C generator set, DW20 water tanker and a bunch of Jersey cows to take care of in my spare time😄
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Tue, Feb 11, 2014 2:02 AM
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The flame thrower is called a thermostart, probably could put in a couple of them in the block-off plates over the openings where the pony exhaust runs through the intake manifold. You would need to connect a fuel line from the fuel filter tower to the thermostart units. The ones I have seen have been on tractors with an injector return line which was convenient to Tee into. There is a block-off plate on the rear of the filter tower where a return line is attached on some industrial engines which would be a convenient place to tap in on your grader.

Here's a link to a google search page which should help you find thermostart units.
https://www.google.com/search?sourceid=navclient&ie=UTF-8&rlz=1T4GGHP_enUS424US424&q=thermostart

Alternatively, you could use a grid air heater installed in one of the joints in the air intake pipe. These are common on Cummins 5.9 engines in Dodge trucks etc.

Might have to use 2 of either of these units connected in series to handle the 24 volt supply or find a source of 24 volt units.

Or install an electric ether injector or spray the can yourself. I really like to spray it by hand whenever possible, it gives me more control over the total amount and the rate it goes into the intake. Ether goes right through an oil bath air filter unit with no problems.
Venco 2003,

There is a photo of what ccjersey is referring to as a “Flame Thrower” from Caterpillar for the earlier tractors and engines.


Kelly

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Tue, Feb 11, 2014 3:36 AM
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Kelly, Thanks for the picture....never seen one before! The thermostarts are pretty commonly available, don't know where you could find one of the CAT units. Looking in my 5J parts book, the CAT unit really does appear to be able to throw a flame which lends credence to the legend on the picture warning that the engine must be turning! The units shown are not too different from a furnace oil burner with an ignition transformer, igniter, pump and fuel nozzle. Just takes the engine turning to supply the air.
D2-5J's, D6-9U's, D318 and D333 power units, 12E-99E grader, 922B & 944A wheel loaders, D330C generator set, DW20 water tanker and a bunch of Jersey cows to take care of in my spare time😄
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