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D2 Wico magneto part #

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Pioneer1930
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Hello all, I am looking for the model # of the Wico Mag that would have come on a 1940 D2. I am actually trying to figure hot starting issue I am having with the pony that I posted about previously. I rebuilt the carb with a factory Zenith kit and I went through the Eisemann mag but I cannot locate a coil for it and I have a load of Wico parts in the shop. I am convinced this is an ignition related problem as when cool this thing starts on the 2nd pull no problem. I' just not willing to accept the fact that this thing will not start when its hot...… maybe that day will come but in the mean time I really want to chase this down as I really enjoy using the machine. Thanks!
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Sun, Nov 17, 2019 5:08 AM
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A 1940 D2 would not have come with a Wico mag, there may be several Wico # that would be spec for replacement.

I don't think I have any for a look-see. The American Bosch would be an MJK 4/2 360.
I think I have a Prestolite, and a Fairbanks-Morse if that info would be of use.
Will update if I find anything.
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Sun, Nov 17, 2019 6:42 AM
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Reply to STEPHEN:
A 1940 D2 would not have come with a Wico mag, there may be several Wico # that would be spec for replacement.

I don't think I have any for a look-see. The American Bosch would be an MJK 4/2 360.
I think I have a Prestolite, and a Fairbanks-Morse if that info would be of use.
Will update if I find anything.
The D2 WICO magneto parts number is 4s6471 counterclock wise
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Sun, Nov 17, 2019 7:39 AM
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The D2 WICO magneto parts number is 4s6471 counterclock wise
Thank you so much.....
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Sun, Nov 17, 2019 9:50 AM
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The D2 WICO magneto parts number is 4s6471 counterclock wise


That is the Caterpillar #. The wico number for a suitable sub would be different.
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Sun, Nov 17, 2019 7:17 PM
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That is the Caterpillar #. The wico number for a suitable sub would be different.
So I am now convinced more than ever of my mag issue. I went to try and give it a go this afternoon after my hot start issue and it wont pop at all. It will spark the plug but its quite white. I felt it while I pulled it over and the spark is so weak now I don't think I could bump a mouse out of cardiac arrest with it. I think i'm going to have the coil rewound instead of locating a Wico replacement as I would like to keep everything original as possible. Thank you for everyone's input. This forum is always such a great collection of experience from all over the world.
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Mon, Nov 18, 2019 6:49 AM
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So I am now convinced more than ever of my mag issue. I went to try and give it a go this afternoon after my hot start issue and it wont pop at all. It will spark the plug but its quite white. I felt it while I pulled it over and the spark is so weak now I don't think I could bump a mouse out of cardiac arrest with it. I think i'm going to have the coil rewound instead of locating a Wico replacement as I would like to keep everything original as possible. Thank you for everyone's input. This forum is always such a great collection of experience from all over the world.
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Try Mainely Magnetos in Maine - has a bunch of Eisemann spares including coils I believe
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Mon, Nov 18, 2019 9:18 AM
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Try Mainely Magnetos in Maine - has a bunch of Eisemann spares including coils I believe
Hi Pioneer 1930,
The wico magneto used on D4 and D2 is a XH-1906.

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Wed, Nov 20, 2019 1:58 PM
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Hi Pioneer 1930,
The wico magneto used on D4 and D2 is a XH-1906.

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Thank you Rax200.... I have located a couple of coils and some rewinding services and to be honest the cost of owning this Eisemann mag is starting to shock me.....(no pun intended)…… I think some enterprising Eisemann enthusiast needs to start making some replacement parts as the current cost of a coil alone is alarming to me. Once I got my copy of Neil Yerigans book years ago I have serviced and rebuilt all of my mags and have bought or made tools to service them as well. I am in no way begrudging anyone in the mag business or any other related buisness making money let me be plain and clear about that. Its just as the years go by and I see the costs of certain things go up in relation to other things it just kind of makes me sad to see something as wholesome, educational and just plain fun as collecting and running old iron of any type becoming expensive to the point that it may prohibit maybe younger folks from being able to keep this whole thing going.... such is life I guess...…...
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Wed, Nov 20, 2019 10:34 PM
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Thank you Rax200.... I have located a couple of coils and some rewinding services and to be honest the cost of owning this Eisemann mag is starting to shock me.....(no pun intended)…… I think some enterprising Eisemann enthusiast needs to start making some replacement parts as the current cost of a coil alone is alarming to me. Once I got my copy of Neil Yerigans book years ago I have serviced and rebuilt all of my mags and have bought or made tools to service them as well. I am in no way begrudging anyone in the mag business or any other related buisness making money let me be plain and clear about that. Its just as the years go by and I see the costs of certain things go up in relation to other things it just kind of makes me sad to see something as wholesome, educational and just plain fun as collecting and running old iron of any type becoming expensive to the point that it may prohibit maybe younger folks from being able to keep this whole thing going.... such is life I guess...…...
Yes, it's definitely not an inexpensive hobby unless one lucks in to a good condition machine (but then that's reflected in the purchase price too).
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Wed, Nov 20, 2019 10:59 PM
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Thank you Rax200.... I have located a couple of coils and some rewinding services and to be honest the cost of owning this Eisemann mag is starting to shock me.....(no pun intended)…… I think some enterprising Eisemann enthusiast needs to start making some replacement parts as the current cost of a coil alone is alarming to me. Once I got my copy of Neil Yerigans book years ago I have serviced and rebuilt all of my mags and have bought or made tools to service them as well. I am in no way begrudging anyone in the mag business or any other related buisness making money let me be plain and clear about that. Its just as the years go by and I see the costs of certain things go up in relation to other things it just kind of makes me sad to see something as wholesome, educational and just plain fun as collecting and running old iron of any type becoming expensive to the point that it may prohibit maybe younger folks from being able to keep this whole thing going.... such is life I guess...…...


Thanks for the hint on the mag book, just ordered a copy. If I only learn a few things it will be money well spent.

As far as the cost of repo parts, I'm surprised they don't cost more. It is hard to make small quantities of anything efficiently, and then to sit on inventory? I have made a modest amount of Cat repo things, usually just enough $ in it to be feasible. And I think you might find that the people that have both the interest and talent to make those things are paying an opportunity cost that can be steep.
But anyway, thanks for the book tip. Have you considered buying a mag core for parts? You might get a decent coil. Or a similar coil from a different kind of mag might be adapted.
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Wed, Nov 20, 2019 11:14 PM
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