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mog5858
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well bean trying to find a job for my D2 3J so i can get more play time. i know it was not made to do blade work it has small idlers. i was wondering about making a front/under mount snowblower for it. i would go with a PTO drive off the back i think i got a V dive gear box around her somewhere. could a guy use the belly pan mounting holes to hang the front of the under say with a little hyd cylinder? looking at a blower with of about 5' 5'6". so how crazy am i? thanks for the in put.
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Sun, Jan 8, 2017 8:06 AM
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Ah Martin, what an excellent plan. I'd think you could do that although I might be inclined to run the draft arms back to the hitch mount or similar. Shouldn't have any problem running a 5' or 6' as my JD lawnmower runs a 4'. I definitely want to see this : ) I'm thinking of how I'm going to pitch it to the Boss already!
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Sun, Jan 8, 2017 8:44 AM
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Ah Martin, what an excellent plan. I'd think you could do that although I might be inclined to run the draft arms back to the hitch mount or similar. Shouldn't have any problem running a 5' or 6' as my JD lawnmower runs a 4'. I definitely want to see this : ) I'm thinking of how I'm going to pitch it to the Boss already!
2 issues I see is even first gear is to fast of ground speed for a snow blower and the PTO is not live power, snow blowers are power hogs.

It would look cool though.
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Sun, Jan 8, 2017 9:05 AM
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2 issues I see is even first gear is to fast of ground speed for a snow blower and the PTO is not live power, snow blowers are power hogs.

It would look cool though.
If you don't have the front PTO spot occupied by a hydraulic pump, why not power the blower from there?

Not sure first gear would be too fast. I had a 6-foot blower on the back of a Farmall 240. Had to blow in reverse but it was not too fast for the blower.

On the other hand, Lots of snowplows have adjustable feet/shoes so you just drop the blade and go for it. Wouldn't matter that you have the small front idlers.
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Sun, Jan 8, 2017 9:34 AM
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If you don't have the front PTO spot occupied by a hydraulic pump, why not power the blower from there?

Not sure first gear would be too fast. I had a 6-foot blower on the back of a Farmall 240. Had to blow in reverse but it was not too fast for the blower.

On the other hand, Lots of snowplows have adjustable feet/shoes so you just drop the blade and go for it. Wouldn't matter that you have the small front idlers.
not a lot of call for snow blowers in north QLD but none the less this will be interest to watch


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Sun, Jan 8, 2017 9:54 AM
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not a lot of call for snow blowers in north QLD but none the less this will be interest to watch


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Hi, Mog5858.
Do you already have front-mounted hydraulics on your D2? If so, why not go with hydraulic drive on the snow blower. Even if you don't already have the hydraulics, I'd guess that the live front drive would be a better bet for a snow blower.

Azfer mountings, I could say, "Don't be so tight-a$$ed. Fit it with dozer trunnions, attach your snow blower from there and then, when summer comes, you have a good start for saying to the 'finance manager', "Darling, I already have the dozer trunnions. I need a dozer to clear away the BS."

To which, if she is 1/2 smart, she will reply with the line that I am about to dump on MrsMP below.

Hi, MrsMP.
You may not much call for snow blowers up your way but I have been told that they work pretty well on BS too. Maybe you could use one on the island?????????? LOL 😖mile: 😖mile: 😖mile: 😖mile: 😖mile: :target:

Just my 0.02.

You have a wonderful day. Best wishes. Deas Plant.

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Sun, Jan 8, 2017 10:12 AM
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Hi, Mog5858.
Do you already have front-mounted hydraulics on your D2? If so, why not go with hydraulic drive on the snow blower. Even if you don't already have the hydraulics, I'd guess that the live front drive would be a better bet for a snow blower.

Azfer mountings, I could say, "Don't be so tight-a$$ed. Fit it with dozer trunnions, attach your snow blower from there and then, when summer comes, you have a good start for saying to the 'finance manager', "Darling, I already have the dozer trunnions. I need a dozer to clear away the BS."

To which, if she is 1/2 smart, she will reply with the line that I am about to dump on MrsMP below.

Hi, MrsMP.
You may not much call for snow blowers up your way but I have been told that they work pretty well on BS too. Maybe you could use one on the island?????????? LOL 😖mile: 😖mile: 😖mile: 😖mile: 😖mile: :target:

Just my 0.02.
Mog sounds like a great plan to me. Wear your snowmobile suit, it might get fuzzy behind that blower!!

BP
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Sun, Jan 8, 2017 10:29 AM
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Hi, Mog5858.
Do you already have front-mounted hydraulics on your D2? If so, why not go with hydraulic drive on the snow blower. Even if you don't already have the hydraulics, I'd guess that the live front drive would be a better bet for a snow blower.

Azfer mountings, I could say, "Don't be so tight-a$$ed. Fit it with dozer trunnions, attach your snow blower from there and then, when summer comes, you have a good start for saying to the 'finance manager', "Darling, I already have the dozer trunnions. I need a dozer to clear away the BS."

To which, if she is 1/2 smart, she will reply with the line that I am about to dump on MrsMP below.

Hi, MrsMP.
You may not much call for snow blowers up your way but I have been told that they work pretty well on BS too. Maybe you could use one on the island?????????? LOL 😖mile: 😖mile: 😖mile: 😖mile: 😖mile: :target:

Just my 0.02.
[quote="Deas Plant."]Hi, Mog5858.

Hi, MrsMP.
You may not much call for snow blowers up your way but I have been told that they work pretty well on BS too. Maybe you could use one on the island?????????? LOL 😖mile: 😖mile: 😖mile: 😖mile: 😖mile: :target:

Just my 0.02.[/quote]

What you talking about Deas BS ah you must mean Black Soot from them cane fires LOL but if you are talking about the other BS we have no shortage of that especially when Im having a beer or two LOL

seeya

Paul
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[quote="Deas Plant."]Hi, Mog5858.

Hi, MrsMP.
You may not much call for snow blowers up your way but I have been told that they work pretty well on BS too. Maybe you could use one on the island?????????? LOL 😖mile: 😖mile: 😖mile: 😖mile: 😖mile: :target:

Just my 0.02.[/quote]

What you talking about Deas BS ah you must mean Black Soot from them cane fires LOL but if you are talking about the other BS we have no shortage of that especially when Im having a beer or two LOL

seeya

Paul
Using a front PTO may require it to stick out quite a bit to get a decent driveshaft angle. I think the drive shaft from the back is perfect. Trunnion mount as mentioned with a three point built to the front of the frame. Then next you can install a bush hog, rotor tiller, and whom knows what other attachment easily. I think the speed would be just right with a 540 PTO snowblower. Even old hydraulic blowers fletch blood around here where decent 540 RPM tractor PTO blowers are quite reasonable. I look forward to following the build.
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Sun, Jan 8, 2017 7:39 PM
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Using a front PTO may require it to stick out quite a bit to get a decent driveshaft angle. I think the drive shaft from the back is perfect. Trunnion mount as mentioned with a three point built to the front of the frame. Then next you can install a bush hog, rotor tiller, and whom knows what other attachment easily. I think the speed would be just right with a 540 PTO snowblower. Even old hydraulic blowers fletch blood around here where decent 540 RPM tractor PTO blowers are quite reasonable. I look forward to following the build.
CAT considered the mounting arrangement strong enough to put a Hook on for pulling. Theoretically it will take the push pull loading with no issues. As far as carrying weight, a 3pt snowblower is mostly sheet metal. I've seen a few but never studied one closer. One guy had a 6 footer with a 2 cylinder Wisconsin on the back of a Ford 8N and it still steered OK. Weight wise I would guess the front of a D2 would handle it, in retrospect I can't say how the Main Spring will handle the extra weight? I can see it pulling the nose down when the blower isn't sliding on the ground.
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Sun, Jan 8, 2017 7:59 PM
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CAT considered the mounting arrangement strong enough to put a Hook on for pulling. Theoretically it will take the push pull loading with no issues. As far as carrying weight, a 3pt snowblower is mostly sheet metal. I've seen a few but never studied one closer. One guy had a 6 footer with a 2 cylinder Wisconsin on the back of a Ford 8N and it still steered OK. Weight wise I would guess the front of a D2 would handle it, in retrospect I can't say how the Main Spring will handle the extra weight? I can see it pulling the nose down when the blower isn't sliding on the ground.
thanks guys for the input. from what you guys brought up i had over looked the ground speed thing. plan was to hang off the draw bar at the back then run the frame to the front where i have a way to lifted it. but with not having live pto it's going to be relay hard to slip the clutch to get a little to lower ground speed. unless there some way to changing speeds? smaller drive sprockets? going with a all hyd drive would need a huge tank and lost of gpm pump, oil cooler and big money for the pump and motor and valve. you got to remember this is NO budget holdings we working with. lol i have done one for a small skid steer it's over 40 hp works good but hyd oil sure gets hot it was a lawn mower one we made work on the skid steer mostly used for doing sidewalks. guess that's why it's not done. thanks guys for the sounding board sure is nice to have you guys to point out what i missing.
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