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Can the bearing race (identified by the yellow arrow) be removed through the front of the casing?  If so, how?

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Thu, Mar 10, 2022 10:20 AM
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I just removed a similar bearing on a 955 transmission, which is a D-4 transmission.  The bearing was a roller bearing with cylindrical rollers The part of the bearing holding the rollers in place came apart and dropped 12 of the 15 rollers in the transmission.  I fished them out with a magnet.  I turned a ring which fit over and clamped to the race, then used a puller similar to a steering wheel puller to pull the race off the shaft. The split ring was held together with 5/16 inch socket head screws.  it took some time to tighten the screws with an Allen Wrench clamping the ring to the race  but it held the ring tight.  There was a 1/2 inch hole taped into the end of the shaft which I center drilled the head of a 1/2 inch  bolt and screwed it into the shaft to provide a center pint for the puller to keep it centered. My bearing race had a lip on each end so the ring would not slip off.  If your bearing race has a grove in it for the rollers of the bearing to run in, then make your ring so it fits into that grove.  To put the new bearing on, I screwed a piece of grade 8 all thread into the end of the shaft and used a nut, washer and the old race to push the new bearing on the shaft.  It was really tight and close but I was able to get the race off and new bearing installed without taking the transmission apart.  Brian Boaz
Picture # 1 The ring and the puller assembled as I used it
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Picture #2  The ring and the puller taken apart 
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Picture #3  The ring with the bolts that attach to the puller 
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Thu, Mar 10, 2022 11:24 AM
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I just removed a similar bearing on a 955 transmission, which is a D-4 transmission.  The bearing was a roller bearing with cylindrical rollers The part of the bearing holding the rollers in place came apart and dropped 12 of the 15 rollers in the transmission.  I fished them out with a magnet.  I turned a ring which fit over and clamped to the race, then used a puller similar to a steering wheel puller to pull the race off the shaft. The split ring was held together with 5/16 inch socket head screws.  it took some time to tighten the screws with an Allen Wrench clamping the ring to the race  but it held the ring tight.  There was a 1/2 inch hole taped into the end of the shaft which I center drilled the head of a 1/2 inch  bolt and screwed it into the shaft to provide a center pint for the puller to keep it centered. My bearing race had a lip on each end so the ring would not slip off.  If your bearing race has a grove in it for the rollers of the bearing to run in, then make your ring so it fits into that grove.  To put the new bearing on, I screwed a piece of grade 8 all thread into the end of the shaft and used a nut, washer and the old race to push the new bearing on the shaft.  It was really tight and close but I was able to get the race off and new bearing installed without taking the transmission apart.  Brian Boaz
Picture # 1 The ring and the puller assembled as I used it
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Picture #2  The ring and the puller taken apart 
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Picture #3  The ring with the bolts that attach to the puller 
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Thu, Mar 10, 2022 8:20 PM
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Nice!
Great going Brian!! You can tell that you are a machinist!
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Thu, Mar 10, 2022 9:21 PM
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Brian,
That’s a nice tool! I wish I had that capability.

Chad
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Fri, Mar 11, 2022 9:15 AM
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bpusmc: If your bearing race has a lip on the outside or grove in the center and you can measure it with a set of calipers. I can measure the inside of my tool and see if it will fit your bearing race. if it will, I can send you my tool and you can use it to pull your bearing race off. If you have a puller like the one, I have pictured with a point on it. find out what size and thread the center hole in the shaft is and I can center drill a bolt to screw into the end of the shaft to hold a puller true. Isn't that what this ACMOC is all about? Helping and educating each other out to keep these old machines running. Brian Boaz
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Fri, Mar 11, 2022 11:22 AM
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bpusmc: If your bearing race has a lip on the outside or grove in the center and you can measure it with a set of calipers. I can measure the inside of my tool and see if it will fit your bearing race. if it will, I can send you my tool and you can use it to pull your bearing race off. If you have a puller like the one, I have pictured with a point on it. find out what size and thread the center hole in the shaft is and I can center drill a bolt to screw into the end of the shaft to hold a puller true. Isn't that what this ACMOC is all about? Helping and educating each other out to keep these old machines running. Brian Boaz
you can buy ready made bearing separators from any good industrial supplier, auto parts joint or tool shop. they come in a few different size ranges and for the smaller sizes under 100 bucks you can also get them as part of gear puller sets.

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Fri, Mar 11, 2022 1:27 PM
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you can buy ready made bearing separators from any good industrial supplier, auto parts joint or tool shop. they come in a few different size ranges and for the smaller sizes under 100 bucks you can also get them as part of gear puller sets.
Use heat tip on a torch, heat it up quick, it'll slide right off.
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Fri, Mar 11, 2022 8:08 PM
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Use heat tip on a torch, heat it up quick, it'll slide right off.
You're a champion Brian! : )
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 [attachment=67138]566D8916-F0C9-4CF4-A6FD-CFA790E03765.jpeg[/attachment] [attachment=67139]EDD2512F-1F7D-4FA6-A898-0B8712101730.jpeg[/attachment]bboaz: Brian, thanks for your generous offer.The new race OD is 1.49” and is completely smooth, no lip or groove (see photo). I threaded a piece of 1/2” 20 allthread in the center hole in the shaft. To humor you, the last picture is my shade tree mechanic attempt at making a puller. I didn’t want to give up without trying something!! I’m anxious to get this thing put back together and really appreciate your help. 
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 [attachment=67138]566D8916-F0C9-4CF4-A6FD-CFA790E03765.jpeg[/attachment] [attachment=67139]EDD2512F-1F7D-4FA6-A898-0B8712101730.jpeg[/attachment]bboaz: Brian, thanks for your generous offer.The new race OD is 1.49” and is completely smooth, no lip or groove (see photo). I threaded a piece of 1/2” 20 allthread in the center hole in the shaft. To humor you, the last picture is my shade tree mechanic attempt at making a puller. I didn’t want to give up without trying something!! I’m anxious to get this thing put back together and really appreciate your help. 
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When I had a bearing race like that to remove (bevel gear shaft in rear of transmission), I sliced it with a gas axe. I shielded it up with some plate, heated it first with a mapp gas torch, then hit it fast and hard with the axe. I didn't cut all the way to the end, just about 75% of it. A cold chisel opened up the rest. It came off but if it didn't, my next step was going to be welding something to the split end so I could grab a hold of it and pull it off. A small scour on the shaft but otherwise unharmed. Tractor seems to work ok! : )
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