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Cysco
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I have resolved that the core is leaking on my 1956 D2 and needs attention from a radiator shop. I don't have a detail showing the removal and replacing of the core. I am hoping to remove the core and not have to take the 44 hydraulic tank and shaft out first but need some guidence and knowledge as to how to tackle this project.. I have the two gaskets, 5F1847, being sent to me and have the other misc gaskets on hand..
Thanks.......Bill
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Mon, Dec 28, 2009 12:08 AM
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It will be a little awkward but the radiator can be parted at the bottom tank flange without disturbing the #44 pump and drive.
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Mon, Dec 28, 2009 12:19 AM
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Reply to Old Magnet:
It will be a little awkward but the radiator can be parted at the bottom tank flange without disturbing the #44 pump and drive.
Personally I would take it completely apart because then you can detail all the radiator shell parts by sand blasting and repainting them especially the bottom tank that will probably be caked with rust. It's not hard to remove the #44 it just slides off the shaft when you pull it. Installing the new core will be much more easier with all the sealing surfaces clean.
I detailed one of my D2s one time this way. My oil cooler needed replaced anyway and I machined a new pump splined coupling that had the internal splines worn paper thin. After I restored everything I knew what I had.
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Mon, Dec 28, 2009 12:32 AM
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Reply to side-seat:
Personally I would take it completely apart because then you can detail all the radiator shell parts by sand blasting and repainting them especially the bottom tank that will probably be caked with rust. It's not hard to remove the #44 it just slides off the shaft when you pull it. Installing the new core will be much more easier with all the sealing surfaces clean.
I detailed one of my D2s one time this way. My oil cooler needed replaced anyway and I machined a new pump splined coupling that had the internal splines worn paper thin. After I restored everything I knew what I had.
I am not sure how the 44 is mounted to the radiator. I have seen the large nuts between the radiator and 44 tank and do I remove them first or do I remove all the attaching hardware on the radiator, remove the bottom bolts from the support. remove the hydraulic lines then the radiator and the 44 hydraulic unit slide off the shaft as a unit ? Bear with me as I am learning and don't want to create more work than necessary.

side-seat..... The underneath of this radiator is in really good shape....no rust at all on the radiator. There is no oil cooler as it is a later model.

Old Magnet....This D2 has put me in a lot of awkward positions since I started....*L*.....not to mention the bruised and battered knuckles and the "colorful" language I have used to describe some parts....*L* but it has been fun.
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Mon, Dec 28, 2009 12:58 AM
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I am not sure how the 44 is mounted to the radiator. I have seen the large nuts between the radiator and 44 tank and do I remove them first or do I remove all the attaching hardware on the radiator, remove the bottom bolts from the support. remove the hydraulic lines then the radiator and the 44 hydraulic unit slide off the shaft as a unit ? Bear with me as I am learning and don't want to create more work than necessary.

side-seat..... The underneath of this radiator is in really good shape....no rust at all on the radiator. There is no oil cooler as it is a later model.

Old Magnet....This D2 has put me in a lot of awkward positions since I started....*L*.....not to mention the bruised and battered knuckles and the "colorful" language I have used to describe some parts....*L* but it has been fun.
another reason to take off the bottom tank with the radiator is the rad shop will be able to fill it to check for leaks, tough to do without it. you might only have 1 visible leak now and 3 more pluged with ?, once they boil out the rad they will likely spot more.

to remove pump, drain oil, remove lines, back out the 4 large bolts, be prepared for 200 pounds+ when you slide the 44 out. 2 men or a hoist.
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Mon, Dec 28, 2009 1:07 AM
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another reason to take off the bottom tank with the radiator is the rad shop will be able to fill it to check for leaks, tough to do without it. you might only have 1 visible leak now and 3 more pluged with ?, once they boil out the rad they will likely spot more.

to remove pump, drain oil, remove lines, back out the 4 large bolts, be prepared for 200 pounds+ when you slide the 44 out. 2 men or a hoist.
Hi Cysco,
here is a scan from the SRB Form No 12914-2, dated 09-56, Hydraulic Controls & Equipment.
Hope this helps.
Cheers,
Eddie B.
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Mon, Dec 28, 2009 6:07 AM
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Hi Cysco,
here is a scan from the SRB Form No 12914-2, dated 09-56, Hydraulic Controls & Equipment.
Hope this helps.
Cheers,
Eddie B.
Thanks edb....that will help.
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Mon, Dec 28, 2009 4:44 PM
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Thanks edb....that will help.
I am not really clear on one thing though..........do I need to remove the 44 tank via the four bolts and it slides off the shaft and then remove/slide the radiator off the shaft. Just trying to get the order of removal right. I have an overhead chain hoist and a heavy hydraulic "cherry picker" that should do the heavy lifting. The only regret is losing the hydraulic fluid as I had just put it in. Thanks for the help ........Bill
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Mon, Dec 28, 2009 4:51 PM
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I am not really clear on one thing though..........do I need to remove the 44 tank via the four bolts and it slides off the shaft and then remove/slide the radiator off the shaft. Just trying to get the order of removal right. I have an overhead chain hoist and a heavy hydraulic "cherry picker" that should do the heavy lifting. The only regret is losing the hydraulic fluid as I had just put it in. Thanks for the help ........Bill
Cysco,
If I remember correctly, the shaft will slide out of the coupling and that's between the radiator and the engine. You really don't have to drain the hydraulic tank to remove it. Just remember, that thing is HEAVY! Once the unit is off and out of the way, the radiator could be lifted off.

As far as losing the hydraulic fluid, when you uncouple the lines from the hydraulic unit you'll lose a couple of pints out of the lines. Just make sure the blade is down all the way with all pressure off the hydraulics otherwise you'll get a spurt of oil when you take the lines loose from the tank.
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Mon, Dec 28, 2009 9:38 PM
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Cysco,
If I remember correctly, the shaft will slide out of the coupling and that's between the radiator and the engine. You really don't have to drain the hydraulic tank to remove it. Just remember, that thing is HEAVY! Once the unit is off and out of the way, the radiator could be lifted off.

As far as losing the hydraulic fluid, when you uncouple the lines from the hydraulic unit you'll lose a couple of pints out of the lines. Just make sure the blade is down all the way with all pressure off the hydraulics otherwise you'll get a spurt of oil when you take the lines loose from the tank.
Thanks ol' Grump.........that is clearer for me now.I will for sure have a hoist o both 44 unit and the radiator when I remove them. I'll let you know how it goes....probably this weekend. Thanks again.....Bill
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Tue, Dec 29, 2009 6:16 PM
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Reply to Steve A:
another reason to take off the bottom tank with the radiator is the rad shop will be able to fill it to check for leaks, tough to do without it. you might only have 1 visible leak now and 3 more pluged with ?, once they boil out the rad they will likely spot more.

to remove pump, drain oil, remove lines, back out the 4 large bolts, be prepared for 200 pounds+ when you slide the 44 out. 2 men or a hoist.
[quote="Steve A"]another reason to take off the bottom tank with the radiator is the rad shop will be able to fill it to check for leaks, tough to do without it. you might only have 1 visible leak now and 3 more pluged with ?, once they boil out the rad they will likely spot more.

to remove pump, drain oil, remove lines, back out the 4 large bolts, be prepared for 200 pounds+ when you slide the 44 out. 2 men or a hoist.[/quote]

You are right Steve A.....there may be more and since it will be halfway apart why not just fix it all the way.
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Tue, Dec 29, 2009 8:17 PM
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