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Dave-o
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I've fitted my D2 5U with an new 40 MT electric starter but decided to get the pony running also (wasn't when I bought the unit).
Got it up and running today witch a few hits and misses due to fuel blockages. After crackling along for a few minutes, not turning the main engine, I shut it off. On restarting it, it began blowing what appeared to be crankcase oil out the exaust and stopped. I pulled both the plugs, and both were fine, not wet, no oil.
Any ideas?
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Sun, Jul 23, 2017 3:00 PM
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I think you are on your own with this one! The one possibility I can think of would be a blown top cover gasket that could allow oil to splash in between exhaust pulses. I would have thought this would produce increased crankcase pressure and perhaps even blow the dipstick out.
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Sun, Jul 23, 2017 8:40 PM
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Reply to ccjersey:
I think you are on your own with this one! The one possibility I can think of would be a blown top cover gasket that could allow oil to splash in between exhaust pulses. I would have thought this would produce increased crankcase pressure and perhaps even blow the dipstick out.
without turning the main engine you had no water circulating to cool the pony
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Sun, Jul 23, 2017 8:55 PM
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without turning the main engine you had no water circulating to cool the pony
My 2 cyl pony on my cat 12 did similar. I was cranking the main eng and it would not start. Pony started slowing down and died. Thought it was out of gas. Now back fires through carb and lots of crankcase pressure. Blowing oil out of air cleaner some.Fuel ok, Spark ok. Haven't cked compression yet. Elect start.
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Mon, Jul 24, 2017 1:19 AM
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My 2 cyl pony on my cat 12 did similar. I was cranking the main eng and it would not start. Pony started slowing down and died. Thought it was out of gas. Now back fires through carb and lots of crankcase pressure. Blowing oil out of air cleaner some.Fuel ok, Spark ok. Haven't cked compression yet. Elect start.
Sounds like tuckered out pony to me. Leaking rings and valves.
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Mon, Jul 24, 2017 1:57 AM
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Sounds like tuckered out pony to me. Leaking rings and valves.
Hi Dave-o,
seeing you had gas supply problems maybe check if your pony oil level is high and thin on the dipstick.

When the pony carby float sticks or the gas shut off tap is left on gas dilutes the minute amount of pony crankcase oil--always shut the pony down by turning of the gas and let the carby run dry, only use the mag switch to shut off the pony in an emergency or if you are going to re-start it again soon.

Usually with diluted oil the pony can be hard to start, but electric start can overcome this.

Do not run the pony with diluted oil or you run the risk of seized bearings etc.

Cheers,
Eddie B.
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Mon, Jul 24, 2017 7:11 AM
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without turning the main engine you had no water circulating to cool the pony


Cheers. Wasn't aware of that.
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Mon, Jul 24, 2017 7:48 AM
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Hi Dave-o,
seeing you had gas supply problems maybe check if your pony oil level is high and thin on the dipstick.

When the pony carby float sticks or the gas shut off tap is left on gas dilutes the minute amount of pony crankcase oil--always shut the pony down by turning of the gas and let the carby run dry, only use the mag switch to shut off the pony in an emergency or if you are going to re-start it again soon.

Usually with diluted oil the pony can be hard to start, but electric start can overcome this.

Do not run the pony with diluted oil or you run the risk of seized bearings etc.

Cheers,
Eddie B.
[quote="edb"]Hi Dave-o,
seeing you had gas supply problems maybe check if your pony oil level is high and thin on the dipstick.

When the pony carby float sticks or the gas shut off tap is left on gas dilutes the minute amount of pony crankcase oil--always shut the pony down by turning of the gas and let the carby run dry, only use the mag switch to shut off the pony in an emergency or if you are going to re-start it again soon.

Usually with diluted oil the pony can be hard to start, but electric start can overcome this.

Do not run the pony with diluted oil or you run the risk of seized bearings etc.

Cheers,
Eddie B.[/quote]

Going to drain, flush and start again just to be sure.
Cheers.
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Mon, Jul 24, 2017 7:53 AM
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[quote="Dave-o"]I've fitted my D2 5U with an new 40 MT electric starter but decided to get the pony running also (wasn't when I bought the unit).
Got it up and running today witch a few hits and misses due to fuel blockages. After crackling along for a few minutes, not turning the main engine, I shut it off. On restarting it, it began blowing what appeared to be crankcase oil out the exaust and stopped. I pulled both the plugs, and both were fine, not wet, no oil.
Any ideas?[/quote]

I recently brought home a 1953 D2 5U and would like to convert it to electric start as the pony motor is in poor shape. Can you direct me on how to go about this?
Sincerely,

Chappy1
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Tue, May 1, 2018 10:12 PM
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Information developed by OldMagnet and organized and posted by SWISHY is in the sticky post at the top of this forum page titled electric start conversion new parts sources. Scroll down to about post #72 and you will see a picture of a cover page. Click on it and keep clicking on the pictures you want to open or print.
D2-5J's, D6-9U's, D318 and D333 power units, 12E-99E grader, 922B & 944A wheel loaders, D330C generator set, DW20 water tanker and a bunch of Jersey cows to take care of in my spare time😄
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Wed, May 2, 2018 1:16 AM
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Information developed by OldMagnet and organized and posted by SWISHY is in the sticky post at the top of this forum page titled electric start conversion new parts sources. Scroll down to about post #72 and you will see a picture of a cover page. Click on it and keep clicking on the pictures you want to open or print.
Run a compression test and see what you have, needs to be above 90 to run 120 is better....WA7OPY
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