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D2 pony motor balancer

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Hal
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I have been trying to remove the balancer from the crank on my pony motor and the pullers slipped off taking a chunk of the balancer with it. The chunk is maybe 3/8” square and at the deepest 1/16”. Will this throw it too far out of balance and ruin bearings etc ? [attachment=50280]12AB827D-1B46-4A4A-848D-D9398C8E53ED.jpg[/attachment][attachment=50280]12AB827D-1B46-4A4A-848D-D9398C8E53ED.jpg[/attachment]
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Mon, Aug 13, 2018 1:41 AM
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Doesn't seem like much but to compensate, just grind about the same amount of material from the opposite side and you'll be golden. To remove the flywheel, get one of those cheap 10t hydraulic pullers from Harbor Freight and a couple of bolts and heavy washers from Fastenal. Apply the pressure on the puller and then tap on the circumference of the flywheel and it'll pop off. Leave the nut on about 1- 1 1/2 turns from tight so the flywheel doesn't take off
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Mon, Aug 13, 2018 2:46 AM
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Doesn't seem like much but to compensate, just grind about the same amount of material from the opposite side and you'll be golden. To remove the flywheel, get one of those cheap 10t hydraulic pullers from Harbor Freight and a couple of bolts and heavy washers from Fastenal. Apply the pressure on the puller and then tap on the circumference of the flywheel and it'll pop off. Leave the nut on about 1- 1 1/2 turns from tight so the flywheel doesn't take off
Thanks for the advice Neil ! Glad to hear it’s not ruined!
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Mon, Aug 13, 2018 3:01 AM
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Thanks for the advice Neil ! Glad to hear it’s not ruined!
The hub has tapped holes to pull it
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Mon, Aug 13, 2018 5:11 AM
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The hub has tapped holes to pull it
there has been a lot of posts on here advising us to never pull on the flanges---I think OM even posted a puller he designed to pull the hub off
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Mon, Aug 13, 2018 5:18 AM
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there has been a lot of posts on here advising us to never pull on the flanges---I think OM even posted a puller he designed to pull the hub off
You just need a regular two-bolt puller. Hydraulic enables you to ramp up the pressure before you tap
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Mon, Aug 13, 2018 6:33 AM
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You just need a regular two-bolt puller. Hydraulic enables you to ramp up the pressure before you tap
I made such a puller.... Two long bolts ( about 12" or so) that thread into the balancer. At the "head" end of the bolt a pieces of 1" thick steel about 8" x 2". 2 holes in that plate match the distance between the holes in the balancer. Place a hydraulic Jack ( that will work on its side - some won't ) between the plate and the pony shaft.

On a D6 I did this and had to use a cheater bar on the hydraulic Jack. I covered the entire assembly with a heavy tarp, expecting shrapnel to fly or the Jack to blow. There was a loud bang, but the balancer popped off.

I posted pictures in an old post about this....
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Mon, Aug 13, 2018 7:13 AM
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I made such a puller.... Two long bolts ( about 12" or so) that thread into the balancer. At the "head" end of the bolt a pieces of 1" thick steel about 8" x 2". 2 holes in that plate match the distance between the holes in the balancer. Place a hydraulic Jack ( that will work on its side - some won't ) between the plate and the pony shaft.

On a D6 I did this and had to use a cheater bar on the hydraulic Jack. I covered the entire assembly with a heavy tarp, expecting shrapnel to fly or the Jack to blow. There was a loud bang, but the balancer popped off.

I posted pictures in an old post about this....
What is a “Balancer? I’ve always called it a “Flywheel” and so does Cat. :confused2
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Mon, Aug 13, 2018 10:15 AM
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What is a “Balancer? I’ve always called it a “Flywheel” and so does Cat. :confused2
I guess balancer comes from a harmonic balancer that drives fan belts on an engine?? :confused2:
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Mon, Aug 13, 2018 7:34 PM
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I guess balancer comes from a harmonic balancer that drives fan belts on an engine?? :confused2:
Hal, it looks like a balancer with that meaty flange but it's just solid cast iron and serves as a flywheel. On models with electric pony start, there's a belt groove machined into that flange so it's a bit thinner.
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Mon, Aug 13, 2018 8:04 PM
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I made such a puller.... Two long bolts ( about 12" or so) that thread into the balancer. At the "head" end of the bolt a pieces of 1" thick steel about 8" x 2". 2 holes in that plate match the distance between the holes in the balancer. Place a hydraulic Jack ( that will work on its side - some won't ) between the plate and the pony shaft.

On a D6 I did this and had to use a cheater bar on the hydraulic Jack. I covered the entire assembly with a heavy tarp, expecting shrapnel to fly or the Jack to blow. There was a loud bang, but the balancer popped off.

I posted pictures in an old post about this....
[quote="TOGNOT"]I made such a puller.... Two long bolts ( about 12" or so) that thread into the balancer. At the "head" end of the bolt a pieces of 1" thick steel about 8" x 2". 2 holes in that plate match the distance between the holes in the balancer. Place a hydraulic Jack ( that will work on its side - some won't ) between the plate and the pony shaft.

On a D6 I did this and had to use a cheater bar on the hydraulic Jack. I covered the entire assembly with a heavy tarp, expecting shrapnel to fly or the Jack to blow. There was a loud bang, but the balancer popped off.

I posted pictures in an old post about this....[/quote]

Tognot, thanks for mentioning that post. I took a look at it, I have tried most of what was mentioned. I put the puller under as much pressure as my impact would give it and left it for 24 hours and nothing happened. I put heat to it while under pressure (although not too much ) I think I will try pressure and more heat again this weekend. Now that I understand that heat won’t hurt the flywheel. I will have to look but I don’t remember seeing holes in the flywheel but then again I wasn't looking for them and they are probably there and using them and a jack will be the next option.

Thanks again
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