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D2 pinion housing seal 2A3676 - alternate sizing?

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neil
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I test-fitted the pinion assembly into the flywheel housing and the o-ring makes it very tight. Even fully lubed up, it took a crowbar to lever it in there. I'm wondering if someone has figured out a different o-ring with a smaller cross-section. Seems to me it would help if the o-ring was a bit smaller and perhaps oval or square. the one that came off it looks like it was square originally although that could be just it sitting in there for so long. It has a very crisp set of edges on it.
I'm concerned that when I pull this apart in future it'll be very hard to push it out again.
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Wed, Aug 31, 2016 12:23 AM
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that o ring is a very tight fit in my experience as well, I thought i missed abolt as it didn't want to budge when i first attempted to remove the pinion clutch housing.

When i reassembled, i had the hole and the housing very clean by using a wire wheel on a hand grinder to remove any rust and paint. i then used copious amounts of never seize to lube the o ring and the housing to prevent rust formation in the future. it was very tight to re-install, patience and persistance paid off. i was worried about damaging the o-ring but there weren't any sharp edges so it went together well and didn't leak.

the original o ring does come out looking like a square ring from being in place for so many years, i to was surprised when the new one i ordered from cat came as a regular round o-ring.
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Wed, Aug 31, 2016 1:22 AM
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that o ring is a very tight fit in my experience as well, I thought i missed abolt as it didn't want to budge when i first attempted to remove the pinion clutch housing.

When i reassembled, i had the hole and the housing very clean by using a wire wheel on a hand grinder to remove any rust and paint. i then used copious amounts of never seize to lube the o ring and the housing to prevent rust formation in the future. it was very tight to re-install, patience and persistance paid off. i was worried about damaging the o-ring but there weren't any sharp edges so it went together well and didn't leak.

the original o ring does come out looking like a square ring from being in place for so many years, i to was surprised when the new one i ordered from cat came as a regular round o-ring.
We've been through this before....
2A-3676 is 6.99mm dia., 85.090mm I.D., 99.070mm O.D.
Option #1
8H2046 (same as a dash 340 trade size) 5.33mm dia., 85.090mm I.D., 95.75 O.D.
Option #2
Cat # 095-1554, 5.7mm dia., 84.60 mm I.D., 96.0mm O.D.

No reason that o-ring has to be so tight.
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Wed, Aug 31, 2016 4:09 AM
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We've been through this before....
2A-3676 is 6.99mm dia., 85.090mm I.D., 99.070mm O.D.
Option #1
8H2046 (same as a dash 340 trade size) 5.33mm dia., 85.090mm I.D., 95.75 O.D.
Option #2
Cat # 095-1554, 5.7mm dia., 84.60 mm I.D., 96.0mm O.D.

No reason that o-ring has to be so tight.
Thanks! I will procure...
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Wed, Aug 31, 2016 4:38 AM
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Thanks! I will procure...
I just received a used pinion assy for my Cat 12 with d318 engine. Also has an old square o-ring. This post was helpful answered my question. I am pretty sure i have the same pinion. Still waiting for a dang parts book from e-bay
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Wed, Aug 31, 2016 5:09 AM
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I just received a used pinion assy for my Cat 12 with d318 engine. Also has an old square o-ring. This post was helpful answered my question. I am pretty sure i have the same pinion. Still waiting for a dang parts book from e-bay
The 8T has a different pinion housing but uses the same o-ring seal.
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Wed, Aug 31, 2016 7:04 AM
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The 8T has a different pinion housing but uses the same o-ring seal.
Get yourself a bucket of "Assemblee Goo" It's a transmission assemble lube.

Stuff is amazing for orings. I use it at work. I've struggled with some orings. Tried grease, oil, wd40, brake caliper lube. They all suck, compared to that Assemblee Goo.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Transmission-Rebuild-Assembly-Lube-Grease-DR-TRANNY-GREEN-Firm-Style-Goo-Gel-/321844744184

A bucket will last you a life time.
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Wed, Aug 31, 2016 9:17 AM
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Reply to jmvmopar:
Get yourself a bucket of "Assemblee Goo" It's a transmission assemble lube.

Stuff is amazing for orings. I use it at work. I've struggled with some orings. Tried grease, oil, wd40, brake caliper lube. They all suck, compared to that Assemblee Goo.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Transmission-Rebuild-Assembly-Lube-Grease-DR-TRANNY-GREEN-Firm-Style-Goo-Gel-/321844744184

A bucket will last you a life time.
Fitted 8H2046 today (after struggling to get the brand new 2A3676 back out again (only been in 7 days and well lubed up...). Slid in by hand but I can tell that there's still some compression so hopefully it'll be leak-proof and much easier to service in future. I have a couple on the shelf now, and I'll swap out the 3J's seal as well (that also has a brand new 2A3676)
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