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D2 no start .... now started with blown head gasket

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D2 3J was parked for a year (inside). Always fire right up, especially in summer, with electric start. Long story shorter :
Would only fire with a shot of juice. Drained fuel ( was stinky - not normal smell) went through the bleed sequence and got her going. ( real time about 4 hours : (

Right away I noticed gray / white smoke and it never cleared up. Cylinder balance ( crack injector lines) shows #1 is dead.
Radiator is bubbling. Seems I have a head gasket leak now ?

I know “anything” is possible ... but ever heard of head gasket going bad while sitting ? - jest kewr-e-us...
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Sat, Jul 11, 2020 5:21 AM
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maybe from the Juice????
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Sat, Jul 11, 2020 5:35 AM
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maybe from the Juice????
Had simular situation. Ended up being a Precombustion chamber
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Sat, Jul 11, 2020 6:28 AM
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Had simular situation. Ended up being a Precombustion chamber


Seems to be more common than gasket AND a lot easier to check out and fix. I would start there.
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Sat, Jul 11, 2020 9:43 AM
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Seems to be more common than gasket AND a lot easier to check out and fix. I would start there.
Thanks ill do research on that and ask more questions if I cant find it.
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Sat, Jul 11, 2020 1:05 PM
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Reply to TOGNOT:
Thanks ill do research on that and ask more questions if I cant find it.
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If the seats in the head are not real smooth, I have had trouble sealing the washers. i believe the old time ones where copper. All the modern ones seem to be steel with copper paint. Engine rebuilder found real copper ones at McMaster-Carr. They sealed and ended my problems in that engine. Have another I just don't seem to get to.
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Sat, Jul 11, 2020 9:31 PM
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If the seats in the head are not real smooth, I have had trouble sealing the washers. i believe the old time ones where copper. All the modern ones seem to be steel with copper paint. Engine rebuilder found real copper ones at McMaster-Carr. They sealed and ended my problems in that engine. Have another I just don't seem to get to.
That is a real rain on your parade moment Jack!
Yes, sounds like bad precup or head gasket issue.
You’re pretty savvy, so I’m sure you’ll get the little D2 back to 💯 soon.
Haven’t heard from you in quite some time. Always wondered what became of you and your D2.
Maybe life was quieter without all of the extra iron you had? Please let us know how things progress. JM
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Sat, Jul 11, 2020 11:50 PM
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That is a real rain on your parade moment Jack!
Yes, sounds like bad precup or head gasket issue.
You’re pretty savvy, so I’m sure you’ll get the little D2 back to 💯 soon.
Haven’t heard from you in quite some time. Always wondered what became of you and your D2.
Maybe life was quieter without all of the extra iron you had? Please let us know how things progress. JM
Thanks all, and JM. We had a fire here ( near keene, CA) and it got within 15 ft of my building where little D2 was sleeping. I pulled him out with a chain, and after fire was out - that’s when my new problem began. ( down hill out of building - uphill into..)

SO I have been reading and I guess the copper ( or soft metal) seal could allow combustion in to the cylinder ? I will pulli injector and Then prechamber ( if I’m lucky from what I have read). If that seems good then the head comes of next.

Thank all
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Sun, Jul 12, 2020 8:13 AM
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Thanks all, and JM. We had a fire here ( near keene, CA) and it got within 15 ft of my building where little D2 was sleeping. I pulled him out with a chain, and after fire was out - that’s when my new problem began. ( down hill out of building - uphill into..)

SO I have been reading and I guess the copper ( or soft metal) seal could allow combustion in to the cylinder ? I will pulli injector and Then prechamber ( if I’m lucky from what I have read). If that seems good then the head comes of next.

Thank all
Copper gaskets if not mangled can be annealed and reused. Bob
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Sun, Jul 12, 2020 9:11 AM
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Copper gaskets if not mangled can be annealed and reused. Bob
Most likely a corrosion hole in the pre chamber.
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Sun, Jul 12, 2020 3:03 PM
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Most likely a corrosion hole in the pre chamber.
Got a little time to give the D2 some luvin... I’m sure I have remove D2 injectors before but maybe I was working on a bare head. This time I need to pull injector and prechamber on #1.

I see I can make a tool by cutting up a socket, piece of pipe etc. Before I do that I want to ask if there is another option I’m not aware of. ?

Also, if I understand, once I remove the injector there is a good chance ill need to make another tool to remove the prechamber- is this correct ? ( I read sometimes they come out together ?)

Thanks all.
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