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d2 front roller axle shaft

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eric in gilroy
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Went to redo my front idler on my 1949 d2. took the tracks ,off took idler assy off, took axle out , pressed out bushings out went down to cat dealer with s/N and had them order new parts they came in and their wrong size . my axle shaft is 1.75 dia the one that came in looks like 1.000 dia. so me and the dealer checked his computer and the part number is what came in the box but is not right and bushing is wrong also. the dealer complained that he was going to have to eat the price of the part. and said someone must have changed my d2 to a different size. so i went home and looked at my other d2 and its seems to have the same size 1.75 dia shaft. what do you guys think. the dealer is lost , i think he is not looking in right parts book but he says its right and that my tractor has different parts.
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Fri, Nov 30, 2012 10:29 AM
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give the model and serial # of your D2 and if single or double flange roller and we can check the part no.
they have different shaft part# depending on the serial #.
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Fri, Nov 30, 2012 10:50 AM
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give the model and serial # of your D2 and if single or double flange roller and we can check the part no.
they have different shaft part# depending on the serial #.
Just to be clear, are you talking about the bottom roller or the front idler? if it is the front idler, the 1.75" shaft came in with 5U6129 in 1950, it is common to update older tractors to the "newer" idler assembly.
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Fri, Nov 30, 2012 11:07 AM
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Reply to josh:
Just to be clear, are you talking about the bottom roller or the front idler? if it is the front idler, the 1.75" shaft came in with 5U6129 in 1950, it is common to update older tractors to the "newer" idler assembly.
Did you notice if the "OD" and Length of the Bushing was correct?
That would be a good indication that Josh is right.
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Fri, Nov 30, 2012 7:07 PM
eric in gilroy
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Reply to dpendzic:
give the model and serial # of your D2 and if single or double flange roller and we can check the part no.
they have different shaft part# depending on the serial #.
[quote="dpendzic"]give the model and serial # of your D2 and if single or double flange roller and we can check the part no.
they have different shaft part# depending on the serial #.[/quote]

s/n 4u1207 sorry its the front idler . we saw a diagram on his computer of the front idler and shaft and bushings.
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Fri, Nov 30, 2012 8:19 PM
eric in gilroy
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Reply to josh:
Just to be clear, are you talking about the bottom roller or the front idler? if it is the front idler, the 1.75" shaft came in with 5U6129 in 1950, it is common to update older tractors to the "newer" idler assembly.


I think you may be right cause my other d2 is a 5u15293.
what was the shaft size before that?
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Fri, Nov 30, 2012 8:29 PM
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I think you may be right cause my other d2 is a 5u15293.
what was the shaft size before that?
The early idler shaft is about 1-3/8".
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Fri, Nov 30, 2012 11:01 PM
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The early idler shaft is about 1-3/8".
Are both sides (left vs right)the same ? Is it possible that someone over the years, turned down a worn shaft to the diameter you have and made an undersized (smaller ID)bushing????

John
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Sat, Dec 1, 2012 4:04 AM
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Reply to John from Fresno:
Are both sides (left vs right)the same ? Is it possible that someone over the years, turned down a worn shaft to the diameter you have and made an undersized (smaller ID)bushing????

John
my early 5U parts book shows the same shaft 7B0618 for the 23 1/2" idler for both sides.
late model 5U shows 8F4896 both sides
Late model 4U shows 8F 4896 both sides
sorry--don't have early model 4U parts book
early model 5J shows 7B0618 shaft both sides.

as per my Cat dealer I got the last 8f 4896 shaft world wide out of Brazil one day before they were recalled back to Cat for extinction!
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Sat, Dec 1, 2012 4:48 AM
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Reply to dpendzic:
my early 5U parts book shows the same shaft 7B0618 for the 23 1/2" idler for both sides.
late model 5U shows 8F4896 both sides
Late model 4U shows 8F 4896 both sides
sorry--don't have early model 4U parts book
early model 5J shows 7B0618 shaft both sides.

as per my Cat dealer I got the last 8f 4896 shaft world wide out of Brazil one day before they were recalled back to Cat for extinction!
The information I posted is for the standard 21-1/2" idler, for the 23-1/2" idler, there are other possibilities, best if you get the part numbers on the idlers and on the "bearings", those are the two assemblies that hold the shafts, and ride on the track frames.
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Sat, Dec 1, 2012 5:53 AM
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Reply to josh:
The information I posted is for the standard 21-1/2" idler, for the 23-1/2" idler, there are other possibilities, best if you get the part numbers on the idlers and on the "bearings", those are the two assemblies that hold the shafts, and ride on the track frames.
I believe that the bushings are pressed into the front idlers and not into the parts that Cat is calling the "bearings."
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Sat, Dec 1, 2012 6:57 AM
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