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Jim Davis
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I put 2 gallons of motor in my D2 5U today to bring the level up to what I thought it should be with the engine stopped. I ran the machine for maybe 15 minutes and had to shut down because a hydraulic cylinder clevis let go.

Fixed the clevis and was going to start up again. Checked the oil and it was down below the "low" with engine running mark.

I could see no evidence of where it had gone. The machine had sat in place running for 5 minutes or so while I looked at the clevis. But there was no oil on the ground anywhere.

Could a gallon or two leak out the rear main seal into the clutch housing in 15 minutes? I will pull the plug tomorrow, but I'm curious tonight.

Jim
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Sat, Nov 5, 2016 6:50 AM
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if your breather is plugged it can push oil into the clutch housing, pop the top off the clutch housing if it is a dry clutch and you'l know in a hurry, don't do it with the engine running.
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Sat, Nov 5, 2016 7:36 AM
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if your breather is plugged it can push oil into the clutch housing, pop the top off the clutch housing if it is a dry clutch and you'l know in a hurry, don't do it with the engine running.
I took the breather/filler casting off the tractor so I could take it home to clean. I got the top outer shell off the breather, but that leaves another metal shell with the filter inside it still attached to the lower shell/casting. Does that come apart for cleaning? It does not seem interested in moving....

Jim
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Sun, Nov 6, 2016 1:19 AM
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I took the breather/filler casting off the tractor so I could take it home to clean. I got the top outer shell off the breather, but that leaves another metal shell with the filter inside it still attached to the lower shell/casting. Does that come apart for cleaning? It does not seem interested in moving....

Jim
If I understand your first post correctly, you put in the oil when the engine was cold and not running then checked it again after only 5 minutes, the engine was still fairly cool and a fair amount of oil was still up in the engine. That would cause a lot of difference on the dipstick.
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Sun, Nov 6, 2016 1:38 AM
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If I understand your first post correctly, you put in the oil when the engine was cold and not running then checked it again after only 5 minutes, the engine was still fairly cool and a fair amount of oil was still up in the engine. That would cause a lot of difference on the dipstick.


Actually, I didn't check the oil until I was going to start it up the next day. It's still down a lot, after that short run.

I got the breather all apart and washed it well in gasoline. Now to put it back on the machine and take a look in the clutch housing.

Thanks to both of you for your help.

Jim
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Sun, Nov 6, 2016 1:56 AM
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Actually, I didn't check the oil until I was going to start it up the next day. It's still down a lot, after that short run.

I got the breather all apart and washed it well in gasoline. Now to put it back on the machine and take a look in the clutch housing.

Thanks to both of you for your help.

Jim
Jim---did you ever sell that winch you had? what about the parts machine it was on?
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Sun, Nov 6, 2016 3:48 AM
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Jim---did you ever sell that winch you had? what about the parts machine it was on?


Sold the winch. Still have the parts machine. (I turn both engines nearly every day to make sure they don't stick😉 Thinking about overhauling the pony on the parts machine. The pony on my user dumps oil as if it had no seals and has at least 1/8 inch of end play on the crank.

Jim
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Sun, Nov 6, 2016 5:53 AM
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Sold the winch. Still have the parts machine. (I turn both engines nearly every day to make sure they don't stick😉 Thinking about overhauling the pony on the parts machine. The pony on my user dumps oil as if it had no seals and has at least 1/8 inch of end play on the crank.

Jim
I couldn't see well into the bottom of the housing, but the clutch disk was dry, so I don't think much oil could be in there.

This time, i did get a couple of hours out of the machine before the oil got too low. Something has changed, because the first few hours I used it ( a few years ago and only an hour or three per year since) it only used a quart or two per session.
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Mon, Nov 7, 2016 6:36 AM
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I couldn't see well into the bottom of the housing, but the clutch disk was dry, so I don't think much oil could be in there.

This time, i did get a couple of hours out of the machine before the oil got too low. Something has changed, because the first few hours I used it ( a few years ago and only an hour or three per year since) it only used a quart or two per session.
does it have Indians ??? as smoke a lot
If it isnt going out the exhaust or leaking on to the ground or in the bell housing I dont think it leaves many other places to go but I could be wrong

Paul
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Mon, Nov 7, 2016 6:46 AM
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does it have Indians ??? as smoke a lot
If it isnt going out the exhaust or leaking on to the ground or in the bell housing I dont think it leaves many other places to go but I could be wrong

Paul
Hey Jim,

Add oil when warm to full mark. Go put it to work, hard. Go pull a disc or another implement that really makes it grunt. Go work it for at least two hours. These diesels that sit a lot and don't get worked hard seem to slobber a bit. I suspect your rings need a good work out.
Glen

PS... I always check my oil when parking. I let the machine cool down a bit at idle and use that time to check the oil warm.
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Mon, Nov 7, 2016 7:30 AM
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Hey Jim,

Add oil when warm to full mark. Go put it to work, hard. Go pull a disc or another implement that really makes it grunt. Go work it for at least two hours. These diesels that sit a lot and don't get worked hard seem to slobber a bit. I suspect your rings need a good work out.
Glen

PS... I always check my oil when parking. I let the machine cool down a bit at idle and use that time to check the oil warm.
Well, it doesn't seem to smoke much when in use, just a little smoky at start up.


I guess it may be slobbery rings. The only way I can work it hard is dozing. Don't have an implement big enough to make it work. My little 7' JD KW disc won't do it unless I was pulling it in soft deep-tilled soil--don't have that.
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Mon, Nov 7, 2016 9:25 PM
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