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I was wondering if aney one could tell me some good places to look for a eingne rebuild kit i am not having much luck i have talked to regal and a few others but no luck un less i do not know what i am asking for can some one help me out thanks
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Sat, Mar 8, 2008 2:08 PM
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Do you have a parts book? I expect what's still available is by individual part numbers only at least from CAT and REGAL (which uses CAT part numbers in my experience) CAT did still have a "valve grinding" (head) gasket set for most older engines, but none of the other overhaul gasket sets that were listed in the catalogs.

Maybe your best bet would be to contact a local engine shop and see who they get parts and gaskets from. The last things I've gotten from REGAL had gaskets made by Hercules Bulldog sealing products. I have their seal and hydraulic cylinder catalogs, but no gasket catalog and cannot find anything on the website. Bearings I got were FP Diesel/Federal Mogul.
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Sat, Mar 8, 2008 8:06 PM
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I,m wondering if kits is a good way to go anyway. My opinion is the kits probably have lots that are needed but it seems it would end up with parts not needed or parts not in the kit that are really needed.I ran the engine rebuilding dept. for a Cat dealer for 35 years and this is how I see it when an engine is to be rebuilt.It,s not a kit that is a fits all.
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I,m wondering if kits is a good way to go anyway. My opinion is the kits probably have lots that are needed but it seems it would end up with parts not needed or parts not in the kit that are really needed.I ran the engine rebuilding dept. for a Cat dealer for 35 years and this is how I see it when an engine is to be rebuilt.It,s not a kit that is a fits all.
go over to the acme site and do a search for parts suppliers.kidnv and some others have compiled a pretty good list over there.rudy
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Sat, Mar 8, 2008 8:25 PM
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go over to the acme site and do a search for parts suppliers.kidnv and some others have compiled a pretty good list over there.rudy
I'm in the process of doing an engine rebuild on a 5U D2. So far the hardest to find parts are the main and rod bearings. Be prepaired for the price and time it will take to find. I have been working with Mike Keeler at Foley Cat to get my parts ([email protected]) (1-620-792-5246). So far he has gotten me rings, gaskets, thermostat and rod bearings. He wasn't able to find any main bearings but has arranged to have them made. I ordered them in Nov 07 and I'm still waiting for them to be completed. Mike has been very helpful, I think the time delay on the mains are as frustating to him as it is to me. Hope this helps
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Mon, Mar 10, 2008 6:46 PM
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I'm in the process of doing an engine rebuild on a 5U D2. So far the hardest to find parts are the main and rod bearings. Be prepaired for the price and time it will take to find. I have been working with Mike Keeler at Foley Cat to get my parts ([email protected]) (1-620-792-5246). So far he has gotten me rings, gaskets, thermostat and rod bearings. He wasn't able to find any main bearings but has arranged to have them made. I ordered them in Nov 07 and I'm still waiting for them to be completed. Mike has been very helpful, I think the time delay on the mains are as frustating to him as it is to me. Hope this helps
can i ask about how much you think you be into rebuilding the motor i have been looking and they do not have a kit that i have found i have talket to regal and no luck and one other place and not luck threr i will try your guy thanks
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Tue, Mar 11, 2008 9:57 AM
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can i ask about how much you think you be into rebuilding the motor i have been looking and they do not have a kit that i have found i have talket to regal and no luck and one other place and not luck threr i will try your guy thanks
At this point I think I have about $2K in it. I still haven't turned the crank which should be about $300 I think. I'm waiting to get the bearing so that I can match up correctly. I'm not going to put liners or pistons in, they both look good.
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Tue, Mar 11, 2008 6:01 PM
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At this point I think I have about $2K in it. I still haven't turned the crank which should be about $300 I think. I'm waiting to get the bearing so that I can match up correctly. I'm not going to put liners or pistons in, they both look good.
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Tim, make sure you take a ball hone which I recommend and hone out the liners to get rid of the glaze on them before you install new rings.After you get it back together and running just run it at a partial load for about 20 minutes after a little warm up and then put it to work with a good steady load on it for a couple hours minimum. This should break the rings in properly then to prevent slobbering.Idling at long periods of time is not good for the liners and rings and causes the glaze which leads to the slobbering condition.
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Tue, Mar 11, 2008 7:21 PM
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Tim, make sure you take a ball hone which I recommend and hone out the liners to get rid of the glaze on them before you install new rings.After you get it back together and running just run it at a partial load for about 20 minutes after a little warm up and then put it to work with a good steady load on it for a couple hours minimum. This should break the rings in properly then to prevent slobbering.Idling at long periods of time is not good for the liners and rings and causes the glaze which leads to the slobbering condition.
SJ, Thanks for the info. I have a 3 stone hone I have used on many other engine projects, and I'm always open to suggestions. I had never heard of a ball hone so looked it up. Hate to buy more tool if what I have will work. Found this site (http://mgaguru.com/mgtech/tools/ts312.htm) but didn't see a recommendation one way or the other. Thoughts?
Tim
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SJ, Thanks for the info. I have a 3 stone hone I have used on many other engine projects, and I'm always open to suggestions. I had never heard of a ball hone so looked it up. Hate to buy more tool if what I have will work. Found this site (http://mgaguru.com/mgtech/tools/ts312.htm) but didn't see a recommendation one way or the other. Thoughts?
Tim
Tim, as long as you have the older style stone hone then use it as we used them for years at the dealer till the ball hone came out maybe early 80s as Cat recommended them.Dip the stones in some fuel oil before putting it into the bores and raise and lower it pretty fast in the bore while it,s turning to get that spiral effect.
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Tue, Mar 11, 2008 10:27 PM
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Tim, as long as you have the older style stone hone then use it as we used them for years at the dealer till the ball hone came out maybe early 80s as Cat recommended them.Dip the stones in some fuel oil before putting it into the bores and raise and lower it pretty fast in the bore while it,s turning to get that spiral effect.
Thanks SJ. I talked with Mike at Foley Cat this afternoon and my main bearings are done and being double checked. I can't wait to get them so I can take the crank to be turned. Mike has done a good job for me, one of the main bearings had to be remade, durring shipment to him it was damaged, so that has been the hold up. The D2 has been in family since 1968, when Dad purchased to use on our fruit farm. He is 81 this year and still wants to be a part of keeping this antique running. I have been having fun being able to spend quality "Cat" time with him on this project. If there are any other issues to be aware of I'm all ears. I have done 3 or 4 other engines, but talking with more knowlageable people always helps.
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