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J McLean
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D2 5u pony carb..., I've spent some time looking through old threads but I can't seem to get this clear in my mind..., I know there is a passage in the carb that exits just below the throttle plate called the"Idle discharge port". Gas comes down this passage to allow the engine to idle with the throttle plate closed. On my carb, that I'm currently holding in my hot little hand, I can't seem to tell if that hole is open into the throat. I can't feel it, or see it. I've blowed air through the passages and squirted carburetor cleaner through every thing but ..., I'm worried that if I put this thing back on before I'm certain of this passage I'll be sorry. Now, to expand a little, there are plugs of some kind,(brass) at the top of the down passage and in the side of the throttle body a guy might be able to drill out. But,
1.] What do you fill them back with? And,
2,] What size of drill would you use? Does size matter?
I think I've read where someone ran a drill through some holes in one of these Zeniths but darned if I can find the info I need now.
Can some body point me in the right direction...
Thanks, and, did anybody notice, I spelled 'carburetor' right...😆
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Sun, Aug 12, 2012 2:11 AM
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Hi JMcLean,
I have written at length on this subject and I too have a problem finding the posts and Pix I have put up on this BB.
The jet is brass and can have either a small drilling off to one side or have a vee grouve in the side of the jet.
These holes are very small so are prone to blockage by crud.

The only fix is to note the orientation for the jet--it is marked on the outside by a vertically orientated machined line. You will need to mark the top of the line to put the jet back correctly.

To remove the jet simply take a suitable punch and punch the jet in to the carby throat making sure to not foul the butterfly plate.
You should find a machined grouve around the body of the jet which will be full of crud. Clean this and the passage from the mixture screw--actually an air bleed--
To reinstall the jet simply punch it back into the carb body until it is flush with the inner bore.

WARNING IF you punch the jet in too far you will have to punch the jet thru and out again as the small end of the jet is too fragile to withstand punching it back flush.
I believe others ( Mike Meyer) have used lead BB's to plug the passages/drillings as needed. He had a good post going on this subject at one time.
Hope this helps.
Cheers,
Eddie B.
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Tue, Aug 14, 2012 8:55 AM
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Hi JMcLean,
I have written at length on this subject and I too have a problem finding the posts and Pix I have put up on this BB.
The jet is brass and can have either a small drilling off to one side or have a vee grouve in the side of the jet.
These holes are very small so are prone to blockage by crud.

The only fix is to note the orientation for the jet--it is marked on the outside by a vertically orientated machined line. You will need to mark the top of the line to put the jet back correctly.

To remove the jet simply take a suitable punch and punch the jet in to the carby throat making sure to not foul the butterfly plate.
You should find a machined grouve around the body of the jet which will be full of crud. Clean this and the passage from the mixture screw--actually an air bleed--
To reinstall the jet simply punch it back into the carb body until it is flush with the inner bore.

WARNING IF you punch the jet in too far you will have to punch the jet thru and out again as the small end of the jet is too fragile to withstand punching it back flush.
I believe others ( Mike Meyer) have used lead BB's to plug the passages/drillings as needed. He had a good post going on this subject at one time.
Hope this helps.
Cheers,
Eddie B.
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I just had a conversation about this with Ag-Mike about a month or two ago. We had plenty of pictures and discussions but I sure can't find it here. I know the title of the message was something like "WTB D2 Pony carb". I will keep looking.

Jamie
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Wed, Aug 15, 2012 1:07 AM
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I just had a conversation about this with Ag-Mike about a month or two ago. We had plenty of pictures and discussions but I sure can't find it here. I know the title of the message was something like "WTB D2 Pony carb". I will keep looking.

Jamie
Whoa...! This is to cool, talking to someone on the other side of the world. Wow, who would believe it... Yeah, your pictures are very familiar. #3 is the, what I call the 'throttle body'. And the plug, or jet you say, can just be poked into the throttle body, from outside to inside, then clean the hole and a grove around the hole, then, simply poke the jet back in from the out side in. Don't push it to far or you'll have to do it over 'till you get it right. Have I got that about right? I figured that was just a plug and the jet hole was drilled in the wall of the throttle body. Huh! Well thank you for the info. I've actually got the carburetor back on and am trying to start the pony. But, that ain't going real dandy and I might need to 'un-install' the whole mess again. If I do, ( note the optimism with the 'If...), I'll do the plug thing. And, Thanks again...😆
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Wed, Aug 15, 2012 10:49 AM
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Whoa...! This is to cool, talking to someone on the other side of the world. Wow, who would believe it... Yeah, your pictures are very familiar. #3 is the, what I call the 'throttle body'. And the plug, or jet you say, can just be poked into the throttle body, from outside to inside, then clean the hole and a grove around the hole, then, simply poke the jet back in from the out side in. Don't push it to far or you'll have to do it over 'till you get it right. Have I got that about right? I figured that was just a plug and the jet hole was drilled in the wall of the throttle body. Huh! Well thank you for the info. I've actually got the carburetor back on and am trying to start the pony. But, that ain't going real dandy and I might need to 'un-install' the whole mess again. If I do, ( note the optimism with the 'If...), I'll do the plug thing. And, Thanks again...😆
Hi J McLean,
yep, you got the sequence and precautions correct.
Yep, in touch with you from downunder here in Australia. We speak a different brand of English here. The great thing about this BB is we talk to people from all over the world and get a different slant on the same problems. Gives one more options to, as the old saying goes, to skin a Cat.

The idle jet mixture adjust screw is an air bleed and so leans out the mix as you screw it out.
The main jet screw works in reverse also as it richens the mix as it is screwed in as the screw acts upon a 90Deg lever. If the lever is bent/distorted then you cannot get the mixture into the correct run range.

The book says the screw initial settings are :-
Idle Screw--screw in gently to seat the screw and back out 1/2 turn.
High Speed Screw--screw in "gently" until it stops and back out 1 turn. Remember if the angle lever is distorted from overtightening this setting will be incorrect.

Have fun.
Cheers,
Eddie B.
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Wed, Aug 15, 2012 1:31 PM
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