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D2 5U main clutch problem

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cat1952dozer
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Hello, I have a 1954 D2 5U where the main clutch will not stay engaged. When I pull the clutch lever back, its like there is no detent, Im wondering if it could be worn out. Ive pulled the two bolt cover off to adjust, didnt help. The crawler moves fine, dosent slip at at all when you pull and hold the lever. When I look at the engagement system it looks like it splits in half maybe to remove it without splitting the engine/trans, not sure. Has anybody had this problem or been into the clutch assembely before. Thanks
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Tue, Sep 8, 2009 2:28 AM
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Hi cat1952dozer,
sometimes when machines sit a while the clutch linings seem to pick up moisture and swell a bit thus stopping the mechanism from locking overcenter.
You may need to back the adjuster off a bit to get the lockover happening--there is a fine line between the correct lockover position and either not getting enough engagement to drive or too much to not lockover but will drive. Yours seems to be the later as it will drive when held into the engaged position.
Hope this helps.
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Eddie B.
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Tue, Sep 8, 2009 6:02 AM
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Hi cat1952dozer,
sometimes when machines sit a while the clutch linings seem to pick up moisture and swell a bit thus stopping the mechanism from locking overcenter.
You may need to back the adjuster off a bit to get the lockover happening--there is a fine line between the correct lockover position and either not getting enough engagement to drive or too much to not lockover but will drive. Yours seems to be the later as it will drive when held into the engaged position.
Hope this helps.
Cheers,
Eddie B.
When you say adjuster you mean the button that you pull out and then turn clockwise or counterclockwise correct. just want to make sure im on the same page. Also the machine was sitting for about 4 years. I put steering clutches in and then took to penn. I ran it for a good weak and a half, adjusting it frequently but no luck. Thanks for your input.😊
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Tue, Sep 8, 2009 6:34 AM
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When you say adjuster you mean the button that you pull out and then turn clockwise or counterclockwise correct. just want to make sure im on the same page. Also the machine was sitting for about 4 years. I put steering clutches in and then took to penn. I ran it for a good weak and a half, adjusting it frequently but no luck. Thanks for your input.😊


That is the adjuster allright.

What you are describing sounds like the same problem I had with my D8, no snap, had to hold the clutch in. My cams were worn flat. I was able to get new ones so I replaced them. They were only worn about 1/16", I think they could be built up by welding and grinding a new profile.

What is the serial number of your D2. The later ones had a big cover and a coupling in there. If it is the older one with the small cover it is pretty hard to work in there but possible. It is much easier to work on a D8.

Tom
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Tue, Sep 8, 2009 2:47 PM
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That is the adjuster allright.

What you are describing sounds like the same problem I had with my D8, no snap, had to hold the clutch in. My cams were worn flat. I was able to get new ones so I replaced them. They were only worn about 1/16", I think they could be built up by welding and grinding a new profile.

What is the serial number of your D2. The later ones had a big cover and a coupling in there. If it is the older one with the small cover it is pretty hard to work in there but possible. It is much easier to work on a D8.

Tom
With the engine off, remove the clutch cover, pull the button and turn the adjuster counterclockwise until the lever does snap into engagement. It may take half to quarter of a turn of the adjuster. Start it up and try it. .As has been stated, sometimes the main clutch will swell when not used occasionally. I've run into this on several Cats. After it's been run for a while you'll probably have to readjust it tighter once again.
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Tue, Sep 8, 2009 7:30 PM
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With the engine off, remove the clutch cover, pull the button and turn the adjuster counterclockwise until the lever does snap into engagement. It may take half to quarter of a turn of the adjuster. Start it up and try it. .As has been stated, sometimes the main clutch will swell when not used occasionally. I've run into this on several Cats. After it's been run for a while you'll probably have to readjust it tighter once again.
S/N 10982. It does have the big cover on top of the trans though. I took a look at the 3 cams tonight, they look to be a bit flat compared to my other machine. I've adjusted it where the clutch slips because its too loose or its been adjusted so tight that there is no movement in the lever and still didnt lock in so I think I will have to pull the top cover off and change them out. It looks like I need to pull the pony flywheel off for the cover to clear, Not a big deal though. Also I have a clutch assembely off a early D2 orchard tractor, S/N 3502 I think. The cams look the same so I would assume they work. We will see in the next few days. Thanks for everybody's help.

Took a pic of the extra one I have, Also looks pretty flat too.
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