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PRR 9339
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I was trying to find the company that sells the parts and can't seem to find the link to them. I got the crank dampner throught them but can't seem to locate them.

second: I now have 5 of these motors. 4 in locomotives and one spare. I cracked two heads on one motor and was curious about people repairing them with the Splatter welding process. Has anyone tried this and what type of results have you had. The crack is at the typical spot between the two valves.

Third: Where is a good sorce of gaskets for the motors. Is Cat the only current provider? I need all the head gaskets. How about the water directors also. Any out there anymore.

Forth: What is the proper torque on a head. The form 30235 Reference book says to only put 62.5 pounds of torque then go to 100lbs on the second round. this seems light to me. Was this a typo?

Thanks for any help

Jamie
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Sun, Jun 30, 2013 5:09 AM
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Hi Team,
head torques below.
Cheers,
Eddie B.
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Yes, has been a while.....
Those are the torques I read also, with an expected tightness of 70 ft-lbs after run in.

Sorry, can't help with the welding process or parts locating.
Could you be thinking of Florin Tractor???

I don't have a parts book but I would suspect the water deflectors are common to other engines.
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Yes, has been a while.....
Those are the torques I read also, with an expected tightness of 70 ft-lbs after run in.

Sorry, can't help with the welding process or parts locating.
Could you be thinking of Florin Tractor???

I don't have a parts book but I would suspect the water deflectors are common to other engines.
I have some NOS head gaskets, will check and see how many. Ken
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I don't think "spray welding" is the process you want. Spray welding with a torch is good for building up thin layers on shafts etc, but I have not heard of using it for thicker layers.

I have had heads welded before. They did 2 small Yanmar diesel heads and one was perfect, no leaks now after a couple years, the other immediately leaked coolant out of the injector bore, but did not leak compression into the coolant, so we were able to run stop leak in it and get it stopped.

Look around, there are shops that still weld heads. I would think a single cylinder head would be a lot easier than a long casting.
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Sun, Jun 30, 2013 9:18 PM
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Reply to ccjersey:
I don't think "spray welding" is the process you want. Spray welding with a torch is good for building up thin layers on shafts etc, but I have not heard of using it for thicker layers.

I have had heads welded before. They did 2 small Yanmar diesel heads and one was perfect, no leaks now after a couple years, the other immediately leaked coolant out of the injector bore, but did not leak compression into the coolant, so we were able to run stop leak in it and get it stopped.

Look around, there are shops that still weld heads. I would think a single cylinder head would be a lot easier than a long casting.
This torque values just seem low. maybe because of the head gaskets used?

CC Jersey

We have two companies discribe the spray welding process to us on the . The heads will be heated up to around 700 degrees and kept ther for a time. then they will do the weld. most improtant the heads will be kept hot and slow cooled over the next day to prevent a crack. The person doing it was local and dicribed the process to a tee. the other group did it for a friend up in Willmington Del. He had good results. The key was heating and cooling to be done very slowly. Does this sound like the "spay weld"

Ken Id be interested in getting gaskets. can you send contact info?

Jamie
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