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2TonIron
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Would anyone happen to have a picture of a Cat Sprocket Puller Spacer No. 5F7334 and/or know the center to center dimension of the pin holes in the 5F9040 Puller Arm. The spacer is no longer available. I want to make a spacer to pull the spoked sprocket on my D47U and need to determine the approximate dimensions of the original tooling. At this time I'm thinking of placing a piece of 1" plate with a hole in it behind the spokes and using a longer puller arm. The puller arm will pass through the 1" plate and pin behind it. Thanks. Tony.
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Sat, Dec 6, 2014 6:19 AM
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This is the best that I can come up with....
Puller legs can be any length that accommodates your puller so long as they are same length.
The 5F7334 spacer (item Z) has additional spacers which I assume are used to protect threads and transfer load to the shaft shoulder and maybe even on to the shaft taper. (don't know). This is what the hydraulic cylinder pushes against.

For my home made puller I welded two shaft retainer nuts together and used a close fitting washer to butt up against the stepped shaft where the taper begins.
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Sat, Dec 6, 2014 7:37 AM
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2TonIron - None of the tool guides give any dimensions for the spacer nor the puller arm (also called a puller leg).

You will have to get someone who owns a puller arm to measure the hole spacing, and someone who owns a spacer to do the the same.

The 5F9040 number is actually a group, comprising the leg, the pin, and the adaptor with the eyes for the pin. The actual leg P/N is 5F9306. It is a common leg, and still a current part, AFAIK.

5F7334 spacer actually consists of 3 components, none of which are listed separately, and they're all obsolete.

There are two spacers, P/N 5F7690 and 5F7693, one of which fits over the other. Then there is a plug, P/N 5F7694, which fits into the topmost spacer, and which takes the pressure of the hydraulic press head.

I'll try a few pics. The first is a pic of the spacer, itemised as "P".

The second pic is the sprocket pulling setup. Sorry about the poor quality, the old pics in these old books don't scan well.

[attachment=26292]Cat tools.jpg[/attachment]

[attachment=26293]Sprocket puller.jpg[/attachment]

Your idea of the plates behind the sprocket will work just fine. Make sure the materials you use are high strength steel (T1 equivalent).
Those presses really lay on the pressure and you don't want weak parts failing and turning into missiles in your shop.

You will also probably need to whack the sprocket with a sledgehammer to make it let go, once you have substantial pressure on the press.
Don't forget to just loosen the sprocket retaining nut and leave about 1/4" gap between nut face and sprocket face to allow the sprocket to pop off, without it flying right off the shaft and across the floor!

The 5F7334 spacer sits against the end of the sprocket driving hub and clear of the sprocket shaft (the dead axle).
The pressure has to be applied to the end of the sprocket hub without any pressure on the dead axle.
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Sat, Dec 6, 2014 8:15 AM
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2TonIron - None of the tool guides give any dimensions for the spacer nor the puller arm (also called a puller leg).

You will have to get someone who owns a puller arm to measure the hole spacing, and someone who owns a spacer to do the the same.

The 5F9040 number is actually a group, comprising the leg, the pin, and the adaptor with the eyes for the pin. The actual leg P/N is 5F9306. It is a common leg, and still a current part, AFAIK.

5F7334 spacer actually consists of 3 components, none of which are listed separately, and they're all obsolete.

There are two spacers, P/N 5F7690 and 5F7693, one of which fits over the other. Then there is a plug, P/N 5F7694, which fits into the topmost spacer, and which takes the pressure of the hydraulic press head.

I'll try a few pics. The first is a pic of the spacer, itemised as "P".

The second pic is the sprocket pulling setup. Sorry about the poor quality, the old pics in these old books don't scan well.

[attachment=26292]Cat tools.jpg[/attachment]

[attachment=26293]Sprocket puller.jpg[/attachment]

Your idea of the plates behind the sprocket will work just fine. Make sure the materials you use are high strength steel (T1 equivalent).
Those presses really lay on the pressure and you don't want weak parts failing and turning into missiles in your shop.

You will also probably need to whack the sprocket with a sledgehammer to make it let go, once you have substantial pressure on the press.
Don't forget to just loosen the sprocket retaining nut and leave about 1/4" gap between nut face and sprocket face to allow the sprocket to pop off, without it flying right off the shaft and across the floor!

The 5F7334 spacer sits against the end of the sprocket driving hub and clear of the sprocket shaft (the dead axle).
The pressure has to be applied to the end of the sprocket hub without any pressure on the dead axle.
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Old Magnet and OzDozer. Those photos and info help a lot. I was wondering what spec steel to use. T-1 would enable me to use a thinner piece of plate if I have a clearance problem behind the spokes. Thanks for all the help.
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Sat, Dec 6, 2014 1:00 PM
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Old Magnet and OzDozer. Those photos and info help a lot. I was wondering what spec steel to use. T-1 would enable me to use a thinner piece of plate if I have a clearance problem behind the spokes. Thanks for all the help.
This is for a different sprocket/machine but a little better picture of the set up.
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Sat, Dec 6, 2014 2:34 PM
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This is for a different sprocket/machine but a little better picture of the set up.
the puller tube can be fabercated from a piece of steel pipe with about a 3/8 or 1/2 wall thickness long enough to clear the end of the dead shaft with a plate or plug on the end of the tube to push on it ,I remember the orginal spacer tub was about 3/8 " thick the main thing you want to remember is that you need to fabercate the tube to slip over the hub threads and bare against the sprocket nut after it is loosened away from the sprocket about a 1/8 or3/16 " away from the sprocket .think the manual says to remove the lock ,and screw the nut back on till it is 1/8 to 3/16 away from the sprocket .The orginal tub was used on different tractors ,so the second spacer was actually used to extend the tube for different applications Tube was larger on one end ,so it could be reversed to use on the bigger tractors
The pull on the sprocket is from the back of sprocket and the hub nut outer face or actually the hub ,not the final drive case
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Sun, Dec 7, 2014 12:33 AM
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the puller tube can be fabercated from a piece of steel pipe with about a 3/8 or 1/2 wall thickness long enough to clear the end of the dead shaft with a plate or plug on the end of the tube to push on it ,I remember the orginal spacer tub was about 3/8 " thick the main thing you want to remember is that you need to fabercate the tube to slip over the hub threads and bare against the sprocket nut after it is loosened away from the sprocket about a 1/8 or3/16 " away from the sprocket .think the manual says to remove the lock ,and screw the nut back on till it is 1/8 to 3/16 away from the sprocket .The orginal tub was used on different tractors ,so the second spacer was actually used to extend the tube for different applications Tube was larger on one end ,so it could be reversed to use on the bigger tractors
The pull on the sprocket is from the back of sprocket and the hub nut outer face or actually the hub ,not the final drive case
Thanks for the additional picture OM and for the procedure rjh. There's tooling for larger machines with the service press that will probably substitute well here with the fabrication of a spacer or two. Probably much less work than I envisioned.
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Mon, Dec 8, 2014 4:42 AM
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Thanks for the additional picture OM and for the procedure rjh. There's tooling for larger machines with the service press that will probably substitute well here with the fabrication of a spacer or two. Probably much less work than I envisioned.
HI, curios how you intend to press it back on?
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