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Kind of an odd question, but I'm curious as to how the suspension on Cat haul trucks work. Are the charged with both oil and nitrogen in the cylinder, or do the use an accumulator? Is it a special designed cylinder? Also, and diagrams on Cat truck suspension systems would be great. Any info or comments are appreciated. I have an interest in this stuff. Thanks.
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Thu, Jun 8, 2017 1:51 AM
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Hey FarmallMMark,

Which truck are you referring to? Just bought a dual charge kit to fill my 773. Yes they are nitrogen over oil. There is a set procedure to follow. Let me know which truck.
Glen
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Thu, Jun 8, 2017 6:39 AM
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Hey FarmallMMark,

Which truck are you referring to? Just bought a dual charge kit to fill my 773. Yes they are nitrogen over oil. There is a set procedure to follow. Let me know which truck.
Glen
As far as I know, all Cat rigid trucks are independent nitrogen over oil suspension cylinders, there is a set procedure for filling them but basically if each pair, with the truck on level ground have the same amount of oil in them, are the same pressure and the same length, they are OK. You will find the proper procedure a little more complex.
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Thu, Jun 8, 2017 1:26 PM
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As far as I know, all Cat rigid trucks are independent nitrogen over oil suspension cylinders, there is a set procedure for filling them but basically if each pair, with the truck on level ground have the same amount of oil in them, are the same pressure and the same length, they are OK. You will find the proper procedure a little more complex.
A Caterpillar 777F. My understanding is that the trucks suspensions are all of the same design, but just with different specs.
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Thu, Jun 8, 2017 5:59 PM
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A Caterpillar 777F. My understanding is that the trucks suspensions are all of the same design, but just with different specs.
That's correct.
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Thu, Jun 8, 2017 9:51 PM
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That's correct.
So the oil and nitrogen are charged into the same cylinder? Nitrogen on top of oil? Are the cylinders similar to a standard single acting hydraulic cylinder? No accumulators or internal accumulators?
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Thu, Jun 8, 2017 10:03 PM
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So the oil and nitrogen are charged into the same cylinder? Nitrogen on top of oil? Are the cylinders similar to a standard single acting hydraulic cylinder? No accumulators or internal accumulators?
No accumulators they are just like a single acting cylinder, part of the filling procedure is to ensure there is no air left inside, only nitrogen, because the presence of oxygen can cause an explosion.
So get the instructions and ensure it is done properly, if there are no leaks, a top-up is seldom needed.
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Thu, Jun 8, 2017 11:29 PM
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No accumulators they are just like a single acting cylinder, part of the filling procedure is to ensure there is no air left inside, only nitrogen, because the presence of oxygen can cause an explosion.
So get the instructions and ensure it is done properly, if there are no leaks, a top-up is seldom needed.
Ok, thank you. I'm a heavy machinery tech and I work a lot with hydraulic systems with accumulators, but I have never worked with Cat suspension systems before. I have an interest in this stuff and I'm always trying to expand my knowledge. Thanks again
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Thu, Jun 8, 2017 11:49 PM
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Ok, thank you. I'm a heavy machinery tech and I work a lot with hydraulic systems with accumulators, but I have never worked with Cat suspension systems before. I have an interest in this stuff and I'm always trying to expand my knowledge. Thanks again
Hi Team,
a fair bit was discussed on these Suspension Cyls. and some data posted in this thread, around post 67.

http://www.acmoc.org/bb/showthread.php?26596-Project-TONKA/page7&highlight=project+tonka

Not sure if I have a cut-away section drawing of one.
Cheers,
Eddie B.
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Fri, Jun 9, 2017 6:44 AM
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Hi Team,
a fair bit was discussed on these Suspension Cyls. and some data posted in this thread, around post 67.

http://www.acmoc.org/bb/showthread.php?26596-Project-TONKA/page7&highlight=project+tonka

Not sure if I have a cut-away section drawing of one.
Cheers,
Eddie B.
Ok, thanks for the link. Pretty interesting topic with good info.
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