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CAT dozer blade cylinder to fit Allis HD11?

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Andrew_D
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The blade lift cylinders on my HD11 are shot. When I bought it, I knew the seals were pooched and the shafts were scratched badly (and deep!). Took them off and to the local hydraulic shop to be inspected. Says that the tubes are shot as well. He's figuring a price on making new ones, but I got to wondering..... Maybe there is something out there on another machine that would work?

5" Bore
36" Stroke
Trunnion Mount - Closed 26" pin-pin. Extended 62" pin-to-pin.

Does anyone know of a dozer with a similar spec cylinder?

Yes, I know that there are still other dimensions to consider: rod end attachment, trunnion design, hydraulic ports, etc. But those items "might" be relatively easy to adapt.....depending on the cylinder of course!

Any help appreciated!

Andrew
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Fri, Jul 11, 2014 7:35 AM
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I had an HD11 series B, the lift cylinders on it were of similar size to the D8H 270 that I had at the same time, maybe an engineer can convert to length etc reasonably cheaply if you can get some from a wrecker.
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Fri, Jul 11, 2014 9:47 AM
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Reply to Wombat:
I had an HD11 series B, the lift cylinders on it were of similar size to the D8H 270 that I had at the same time, maybe an engineer can convert to length etc reasonably cheaply if you can get some from a wrecker.
Really? A D8H? Engine and weight wise, they were comparable in their day to the D6C. I was expecting someone to come up with a modern D5/D6 cylinder!

Andrew
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Fri, Jul 11, 2014 10:49 AM
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Really? A D8H? Engine and weight wise, they were comparable in their day to the D6C. I was expecting someone to come up with a modern D5/D6 cylinder!

Andrew
Allis,s only operated around the 1500psi range; hence they had big rams and large gpm gear pumps to get the ram speed and power. I know for a fact HD11 rams are bigger than D6C/D rams. So you may well have to measure up some D7 or 8 rams
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Fri, Jul 11, 2014 11:06 AM
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Allis,s only operated around the 1500psi range; hence they had big rams and large gpm gear pumps to get the ram speed and power. I know for a fact HD11 rams are bigger than D6C/D rams. So you may well have to measure up some D7 or 8 rams


yep that sounds about the way I remember
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Fri, Jul 11, 2014 3:42 PM
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yep that sounds about the way I remember
Yeah, the hydraulic system on this dozer was at 700-750psi before I tore into it. I haven't had a chance to fire it up yet now that it is together, but was hoping to get it over 1000psi, ideally 1200-1500psi.

Thanks for the suggestions! Is there a quick way to get dimension info on the D6/7/8 cylinders? Haven't had much luck with web searching so far...

Andrew
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Sat, Jul 12, 2014 5:15 AM
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Yeah, the hydraulic system on this dozer was at 700-750psi before I tore into it. I haven't had a chance to fire it up yet now that it is together, but was hoping to get it over 1000psi, ideally 1200-1500psi.

Thanks for the suggestions! Is there a quick way to get dimension info on the D6/7/8 cylinders? Haven't had much luck with web searching so far...

Andrew
I had a quick measure of some D7 E rams for you today 5" diameter and about 37" stroke hope this might help

Paul
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Sun, Jul 13, 2014 6:23 PM
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Reply to mrsmackpaul:
I had a quick measure of some D7 E rams for you today 5" diameter and about 37" stroke hope this might help

Paul
[quote="mrsmackpaul"]I had a quick measure of some D7 E rams for you today 5" diameter and about 37" stroke hope this might help

Paul[/quote]

Thanks! Now, hopefully the trunnion mount is close enough to be workable! You don't happen to have a CAT part number for that cylinder do you?

Andrew
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Mon, Jul 14, 2014 12:22 AM
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