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biged5033
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Hi all,

Just joined up and looking for some advice.

In a few weekends, I'm headed to look at a older Cat D7 cable dozer w/ pony motor (year unknown). The person selling acquired the D7 when they purchased the land it is sitting on. They have very little knowledge of the machine and are just looking to get it out of the way or scrap if it doesn't sell. From what they have gathered, it has possibly been sitting 20+ years. I have very little expectation, but wanted to take a shot of saving it from being scrapped.

Which brings me here... Can you all give some ideas of things to do when I get there to give myself the best shot at saving this D7? I told the owners I'd buy it if I could get it running and move under it's own power. I have some experience working on farm tractors but not heavy machinery. So, all in all, kind of a long shot.

Any advice?
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Thu, Apr 4, 2024 9:24 PM
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Hi where’s the location of the machine if I’m close I will give you a hand?
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Thu, Apr 4, 2024 9:32 PM
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Hi where’s the location of the machine if I’m close I will give you a hand?
Machine is located in Augusta, GA.
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Thu, Apr 4, 2024 9:35 PM
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Machine is located in Augusta, GA.
Check all components for fluid levels and water contamination--make sure clean fuel flows to the carburetor and injector pump check exhaust and air intake for rodent blockages
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Thu, Apr 4, 2024 9:56 PM
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Check all components for fluid levels and water contamination--make sure clean fuel flows to the carburetor and injector pump check exhaust and air intake for rodent blockages
Thanks very much!
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Thu, Apr 4, 2024 10:12 PM
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Thanks very much!
If not molested it should have a 1/4 turn water drain valve under the fuel tank. In some ways if it still has old high sulfur fuel it could be a blessing. But steering clutches and brakes the sitting for a longer time could be the killer. Being creative at finding places to see if you can turn the engines will be very helpful.


Having a cable blade says older, so it will have a pony motor with magneto for starting the diesel. If you have some luck, it will have an electric starter for the pony. They were 6 volt, but will stand 12 volt. Just be careful to not heat the starter too much.

Ask more as you prepare yourself, and things come to mind.
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Fri, Apr 5, 2024 12:32 AM
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Reply to Ray54:
If not molested it should have a 1/4 turn water drain valve under the fuel tank. In some ways if it still has old high sulfur fuel it could be a blessing. But steering clutches and brakes the sitting for a longer time could be the killer. Being creative at finding places to see if you can turn the engines will be very helpful.


Having a cable blade says older, so it will have a pony motor with magneto for starting the diesel. If you have some luck, it will have an electric starter for the pony. They were 6 volt, but will stand 12 volt. Just be careful to not heat the starter too much.

Ask more as you prepare yourself, and things come to mind.
Thanks very much for the advice. I've been thinking about all the possible tools, lubricants, etc. I need to bring. The trip is a couple hours away, so I'd like to be as prepared as possible.
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Fri, Apr 5, 2024 1:08 AM
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Reply to biged5033:
Thanks very much for the advice. I've been thinking about all the possible tools, lubricants, etc. I need to bring. The trip is a couple hours away, so I'd like to be as prepared as possible.
Pick up a new magneto condensor (post your tractor serial # and someone will be able to tell you which one to get. You can adapt generic condensors but it's easier with the correct part. Take a mag file, a couple of gallons of gasoline, some regular gas engine oil, a good selection of tools. Ask the guy if the pony is electric start or hand crank. Ask if he has the hand crank ( I realize you said they don't know much about it but they might know that stuff). If he doesn't, you might be able to borrow or make one. Also ask if they have a big tractor on site that you might be able to tow this with (and take a tow rope). Take some hornet spray, a weed whacker, and a leaf blower. A set of jumper cables or jump pack, shop rags, trash bags. If there is a NAPA within reach, you can pick up things like plug wires etc.
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Fri, Apr 5, 2024 7:54 PM
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Pick up a new magneto condensor (post your tractor serial # and someone will be able to tell you which one to get. You can adapt generic condensors but it's easier with the correct part. Take a mag file, a couple of gallons of gasoline, some regular gas engine oil, a good selection of tools. Ask the guy if the pony is electric start or hand crank. Ask if he has the hand crank ( I realize you said they don't know much about it but they might know that stuff). If he doesn't, you might be able to borrow or make one. Also ask if they have a big tractor on site that you might be able to tow this with (and take a tow rope). Take some hornet spray, a weed whacker, and a leaf blower. A set of jumper cables or jump pack, shop rags, trash bags. If there is a NAPA within reach, you can pick up things like plug wires etc.
Thanks for your reply!

I'm chatting with the owner now to see if they can get me the serial #. I was able to confirm the pony is an electric start. I'll check on to see if they have a big tractor.

When you say regular gas engine oil, do you mean just 10w-30 or 30w? Also detergent or non-detergent?
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Fri, Apr 5, 2024 8:18 PM
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Where could I find a gasket kit or rebuild kit for the carb on the pony motor? In case we need to pull the carb to clean it out.
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Fri, Apr 5, 2024 8:27 PM
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Where could I find a gasket kit or rebuild kit for the carb on the pony motor? In case we need to pull the carb to clean it out.
Any oil will do. Some will swear by mono-grade and other multi-grade but to me the most important factor is that it's clean. The pony is a gas engine so the oil doesn't need to be detergent oil but if you want to just take engine oil, you can put the same oil into the pony that you put into the main engine. For gas engine oil, 10W-30 would work fine. If you have 30 on hand, that will work too.
For the carb kit, there are a couple of places that offer kits - bfic (http://www.carburetorsonly.com), macdonald (https://www.mcdonaldcarb.com) if you call them with your carb number but you can also just buy them from ebay (https://www.ebay.com/itm/296289938661)
If you look on the top of the carb, there will hopefully be a round aluminum plate that is stamped with the carb number. You can ask the owner to get a picture of that number and then compare it to the numbers on that ebay listing (scroll down). Make sure the owner is gentle on that round tag - too many people scrape them to get the paint off but that obscures the stamping.
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