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bs15788
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Hey Guys,

I'm having a bit of an issue with my 955L. When I engage the left or right steering brake it seems as though they both engage instead of just one side. I had this machine completely apart 2 years ago to replace the right side final drive and I had put new steering brakes and all new oils in it as well. I tried adjusting both brakes to see if it was something the adjustment but that doesn't seem to be the issue. Now this machine has sat Since November of last year and today was the first time I've tried using it since then. is it possible that they are locked up for some reason?

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Joel
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Sun, Sep 21, 2014 4:13 AM
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Hi, bs15788.
Those steering pedals are not just brakes. The first 3 inches or so of movement disengages the steering clutch and the rest of the movement then applies the steering brake. It is possible that your steering clutches have become stuck and are not disengaging. Does it still drive with BOTH steering pedals depressed that first 3 or so inches? If this is the case, you need to find some way of LOADING the machine's drive train up - like putting the bucket up against the base of a LARGE tree - and engaging first gear with both steering pedals depressed while lifting the bucket against the tree to get extra traction. Or you may be lucky and manage to break the clutches free - assuming they are indeed stuck - just by fully depressing both steering pedals, engaging first gear and opening the throttle to full noise.

Hope this helps

You have a wonderful day. Best wishes. Deas Plant.

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Sun, Sep 21, 2014 4:48 AM
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Hi, bs15788.
Those steering pedals are not just brakes. The first 3 inches or so of movement disengages the steering clutch and the rest of the movement then applies the steering brake. It is possible that your steering clutches have become stuck and are not disengaging. Does it still drive with BOTH steering pedals depressed that first 3 or so inches? If this is the case, you need to find some way of LOADING the machine's drive train up - like putting the bucket up against the base of a LARGE tree - and engaging first gear with both steering pedals depressed while lifting the bucket against the tree to get extra traction. Or you may be lucky and manage to break the clutches free - assuming they are indeed stuck - just by fully depressing both steering pedals, engaging first gear and opening the throttle to full noise.

Hope this helps
Yes it does keep driving with both pedals pushed in. Is the method you described with the tree the best way to try and free them them up? My issue will be getting the old girl to turn so I can get it to a tree. lol

Thanks for the quick reply!
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Sun, Sep 21, 2014 5:41 AM
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Yes it does keep driving with both pedals pushed in. Is the method you described with the tree the best way to try and free them them up? My issue will be getting the old girl to turn so I can get it to a tree. lol

Thanks for the quick reply!
You could tie the front of the track to the bucket with the bucket down on the ground so the heavy chain is under the track. Guaranteed to stop the track. Hook low on the track so the chain is under the bucket and track if it breaks. If the clutch is going to break free that would do it. Make sure you have the clutch pedal depressed on the chained up side when you strain into it. Good luck.
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Sun, Sep 21, 2014 6:25 AM
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Reply to bs15788:
Yes it does keep driving with both pedals pushed in. Is the method you described with the tree the best way to try and free them them up? My issue will be getting the old girl to turn so I can get it to a tree. lol

Thanks for the quick reply!
if you can't turn it to get to a tree you may try just burying the bucket into the ground ----anything that will put strain onto the steering clutches
be sure to check steering clutch fluids/release fluids
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Sun, Sep 21, 2014 6:32 AM
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if you can't turn it to get to a tree you may try just burying the bucket into the ground ----anything that will put strain onto the steering clutches
be sure to check steering clutch fluids/release fluids
Thanks Guys!

It's supposed to rain here tomorrow and I travel for work so I might not get a chance to try this until mid/late week but I'll let you know what happens after I try it!
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Sun, Sep 21, 2014 6:36 AM
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Thanks Guys!

It's supposed to rain here tomorrow and I travel for work so I might not get a chance to try this until mid/late week but I'll let you know what happens after I try it!
Hi, bs15788.
If it is the case that the steering clutches ARE stuck, ANY way of loading them up and applying power with the steering clutches disengaged stands a chance of breaking them free. The steering brakes on that machine should have enough holding power to do the job without needing any extra loading.

How-wevver, I would suggest working on BOTH sides and depressing BOTH pedals fully at the same time whatever method you use 'cos if it won't turn either way 'twould appear that both clutches could be equally stuck.

Hope this helps.

You have a wonderful day. Best wishes. Deas Plant.

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Sun, Sep 21, 2014 6:58 AM
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Hi, bs15788.
If it is the case that the steering clutches ARE stuck, ANY way of loading them up and applying power with the steering clutches disengaged stands a chance of breaking them free. The steering brakes on that machine should have enough holding power to do the job without needing any extra loading.

How-wevver, I would suggest working on BOTH sides and depressing BOTH pedals fully at the same time whatever method you use 'cos if it won't turn either way 'twould appear that both clutches could be equally stuck.

Hope this helps.
I have a 955L, most likely they are not stuck just out of adjustment. If you get the brake bands adjusted to snug it wont move. Follow the procedure for adjustment and then adjust the length of the steering control rods from the pedals.
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Sun, Sep 21, 2014 7:34 AM
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I have a 955L, most likely they are not stuck just out of adjustment. If you get the brake bands adjusted to snug it wont move. Follow the procedure for adjustment and then adjust the length of the steering control rods from the pedals.
Like Deas said the there should be three inches for the clutch release then brake application.
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Sun, Sep 21, 2014 7:37 AM
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Like Deas said the there should be three inches for the clutch release then brake application.
Sounds like the steering pump is bad and not operating the clutches
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Sun, Sep 21, 2014 11:46 AM
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Sounds like the steering pump is bad and not operating the clutches
I don't know if it has mechanical clutch linkage or hydraulic clutch release. Joel stated that it moves forward with both pedals pushed so the brakes don't appear to be holding it. He also said he adjusted the brakes. Assuming it worked OK last November unlikely that the linkage went out of adjustment sitting still for a year.
My wild guess would be stuck steering clutches--more likely if it has dry clutches :confused2:
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