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Cat 943 1981 EMS does not turn on

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Hello ,
I bought a caterpillar 943. I have big problems in the ems system.
IT DOES NOT ACTIVATE IN ANY WAY, no lights come on, alarm does not turn on, buzzer does not turn on. I checked all the fuses and they look fine. I have verified that the current reaches where the fuses are. I can't understand how the terminals go to ground. Thanks for any help.
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Thu, Dec 10, 2020 3:50 AM
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It could be your EMS is no good, they did used to offer a reman unit, i will check my wiring diagram tomorrow when I get time, you should get lights on when the isolator switch is on, the panel is activated by a second oil pressure switch but I doubt that's the problem.
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Thu, Dec 10, 2020 5:46 AM
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It could be your EMS is no good, they did used to offer a reman unit, i will check my wiring diagram tomorrow when I get time, you should get lights on when the isolator switch is on, the panel is activated by a second oil pressure switch but I doubt that's the problem.
Hi Team,
most Cat machines have a main fuse that is a manually pressed reset button type thermal circuit breaker that after it cools then can be reset by pushing the colored button. If the button jumps back up the unit usually needs to cool some more or the overload is still active or the unit is kaput.
The button also should have its amperage rating displayed on the top of said button--the buttons are also colour coded for the particular amperage rating used.
Been too long since I worked on one of these, to recall the location of said breaker button but in most instances the Button can be on the dash panel or side of the operators seat near the trans control levers--it may also be on the fuse panel too for one of these machines.
I stand to be corrected.
Cheers,
Eddie B.
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Thu, Dec 10, 2020 6:36 AM
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Hi Team,
most Cat machines have a main fuse that is a manually pressed reset button type thermal circuit breaker that after it cools then can be reset by pushing the colored button. If the button jumps back up the unit usually needs to cool some more or the overload is still active or the unit is kaput.
The button also should have its amperage rating displayed on the top of said button--the buttons are also colour coded for the particular amperage rating used.
Been too long since I worked on one of these, to recall the location of said breaker button but in most instances the Button can be on the dash panel or side of the operators seat near the trans control levers--it may also be on the fuse panel too for one of these machines.
I stand to be corrected.
Cheers,
Eddie B.
Hi .
Yes, there are two buttons to click. It should be the 60 amp one. The problem is that nothing turns on, no courtesy lights or ems control unit, nothing at all .... strange.
It should be noted that the cat when I took it was exactly like this .... no light worked
thanks
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Thu, Dec 10, 2020 2:14 PM
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Hi .
Yes, there are two buttons to click. It should be the 60 amp one. The problem is that nothing turns on, no courtesy lights or ems control unit, nothing at all .... strange.
It should be noted that the cat when I took it was exactly like this .... no light worked
thanks
Hi, uisum.
Does the machine still run? If so, does it also do what it is supposed to do without drama?

A kew-ree-yuss mind would like to know.

Just my 0.02.

You have a wonderful day. Best wishes. Deas Plant.

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Thu, Dec 10, 2020 8:34 PM
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Hi, uisum.
Does the machine still run? If so, does it also do what it is supposed to do without drama?

A kew-ree-yuss mind would like to know.

Just my 0.02.
I've looked at the wiring diagram tonight as follows.
60 amp circuit breaker supply's cab power including start circuit.
5amp fuse to EMS , check fuse holder as I've known them not to make a circuit if the wrong fuse is used.
Also earth/ground wire from EMS to the isolator switch.
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Fri, Dec 11, 2020 4:55 AM
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I've looked at the wiring diagram tonight as follows.
60 amp circuit breaker supply's cab power including start circuit.
5amp fuse to EMS , check fuse holder as I've known them not to make a circuit if the wrong fuse is used.
Also earth/ground wire from EMS to the isolator switch.
Scrap it. Buy a 955L.
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Fri, Dec 11, 2020 5:12 AM
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I've looked at the wiring diagram tonight as follows.
60 amp circuit breaker supply's cab power including start circuit.
5amp fuse to EMS , check fuse holder as I've known them not to make a circuit if the wrong fuse is used.
Also earth/ground wire from EMS to the isolator switch.
Hello thanks.
I'm checking all the cables. The fuses are ok
I don't understand where the earth has to go.
For you experts, I wanted an opinion on the flywheel.
Seems pinched is it serious?
The starter they will change it.
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Sat, Dec 12, 2020 1:15 AM
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Hi, uisum.
Does the machine still run? If so, does it also do what it is supposed to do without drama?

A kew-ree-yuss mind would like to know.

Just my 0.02.
Yes it works, but I would like to fix the electrical problems. The electrical contacts are all it is better to have a machine control
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Sat, Dec 12, 2020 1:17 AM
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Would you consider a limited call-out from the Cat dealer to run some tests? You could call them and ask them first how they'd troubleshoot. If it sounds like they have a real plan and the right equipment, it might just solve this quickly, particularly if they say they've seen this before. You can also say no more than 1hr labor to put a limit on it. If they sound squirrelly, then it didn't cost you anything beyond a phone call.
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